CubbiefanMike Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 My least favorite Raspberries song is On The Beach. A little to overproduced for my taste. Money Down and Rose Coloured glasses seemed a little odd for Raspberries music as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Allen Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I have one word for 'On the Beach': Gorgeous. (Would love to hear it live.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I agree with Bob. I've always loved On the Beach. I also love the gritty/hard sound of Money Down. In fact, Party's Over, Come Around and See Me, and Money Down are my three favorite Wally songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Odd as it may be, I have to agree with Bob on this. I'm gonna have to dig around the studio, I think I might have a copy of them doing it live a long, long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie #3 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Wally wrote the song “Money Down†prior to the formation of the Raspberries while he was in Target with second Raspberries drummer Mike McBride. The song was a very hard driving song somewhat like “Alright Nowâ€. However, when they got into the studio, Jimmie Inner (producer) slowed it down and added the horns which totally changed the song. When the original album was released I was lucky enough to have a high end turntable and could vary the speed from the standard 33.3 rpm to around 35 rpm and play the song. I felt that it sounded so much better although the vocals were a little squeaky at that speed. It is my opinion that if the song would have been produced the way it was written and then released as a single it would have enjoyed the same national/international success of GATW. But, then again, I am only the roadie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I, too like On the Beach. I hope the Berries play it in Waukesha. It would be nice to be included in a medley of Cruisin Music, Drivin Around and On the Beach.Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawyer fan Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I think that On The Beach was intended to be nothing more than a fun song and an ode to youthful carefree days. Brian Wilson, as a genius at writing such songs, made a pretty good living.I would love to hear OTB live. P.S. - Would EC be able to modify the words "woo you" all night on on the beach ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannoman Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 On the Beach - to me - was a filler. A weak song in the I Can Remember genre (which is a far superior song). I skip over the track. Again, it's vanilla vs chocolate.One person's junk is another.... you get the idea.Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Ernie,Today it would be a cinch to speed "Money Down" up to the proper tempo and keep the song in the same key! I might try that little experiment myself.Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 "Rose Colored Glasses" makes the cut but that's it."On The Beach" rocks and rolls....."Money Down" is powerfully spiritual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 All you gotta do is ask Jim to drum a little faster...Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggsherby Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Love...On the BeachHate...Money Down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 On The Beach is great. One of my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Have mixed feelings about "On the Beach"....like the individual parts of the song....but also feel they don't exactly fit.....just an opinion.As for "Money Down", it's fine as it is. But it would be interesting to hear the way Bryson intended it to be.But this only, reinforces, as I mentioned before, my "consistency theory" about Eric and the Berries.......the "bad" songs aren't nearly as some of the worst songs by other major artists.I'll take "Money Down", "Rose Colored Glasses' and "On the Beach" anyday over such crap as "Biker Like an Icon"(McCartney), "Justify My Love"(Madonna), "In My Time of Dying"(Led Zeppelin)....just to name a few.Only Billy Joel is in the same league the 'Berries, as far as "least percentage of absolute stinkers among their whole body of work" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 "On The Beach" is a beautiful song... a bit unorthodox, which is nice, unlike the akward "I'm A Rocker" which to me always felt a bit cliched...least favorite raz songs:Get It MovingRock & Roll MamaMaking It Easynothing against Dave, they just seem like they were written for a different band... i.e. Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliaAllByMyself Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I love ‘On the Beach’ ! I also think it would be great to hear 'Money Down' live, at the speed Wally wanted it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I love "ON THE BEACH!" How can anyone not stand that tune? Rock $ Roll mama is bad and so is Money down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I love "On The Beach," and, Pierson, if you heard "I'm A Rocker" live in Central Park in New York City, you could NEVER have thought it "awkward." It's one of the greatest songs they ever did. It ROCKED!Ernie, there's no such thing as being "only a roadie!" Without you guys, the show doesn't GO! The Razz roadies were and are the best on the planet! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie #3 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Thanks Darlene, For us old guys Rusty, Dugie and myself and the new "Babyface" Derek we do it because we are part of the family and we too love the music. The work is hard, the hours are long but it is all worth it. The three of us came back because we wanted to be a part of this piece of music history. And the fans, what can I say "You are all the best" you are the ones that kept it alive and made this all happen. My deepest thanks to all of you. Don't be afraid to hunt us down and talk to us, we will always find the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okstevens Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Get It Movin and Making It Easy are two of my favorite Berry songs. They could both make it on a country station TODAY. Rock and Roll Mama was a young stab at writting a song. I think Dave would like that one back.On The Beach is I believe a classic. Truly love it . Sometimes even hit the repeat button on that one. Money Down, raw and raunchy. What more can you ask for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 actually, Darlene, Eric did prove how powerful of a song it is, when I saw him KILL, with one of the greatest LIVE rock vocals ever on 11/26/04... Still, a simple gander at Eric's career choices will make one scratch their head when he sings "I'm A Rocker"... it should say "I Can Really Rock On The Rare Occasion I Choose To" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Ah, Pierson, it's easy for us to say, "He should have done such-and-such instead of whatever...," and I have to say I've been probably more guilty of it than anyone else since first batch of Berries disbanded. I remember reading a newspaper article that said it was Eric who decided to break up the group by going out on his own, and, just reading that, I was angry with him for YEARS, all the while being thrilled for his solo career and attending every concert. I felt like a split personality! (1:31 AM brings out late-night confessions...Eek!) I had NO idea whatsoever about the music business, or the pressures therein, and couldn't possibly dream of all the problems the band was facing. I know you're in the broadcasting end of the business, but unless one is actually involved as an artist in the industry, there is no way to know the pressures, necessary concessions and obligations artists have in dealing with record companies and execs, the marketing demographics, AND radio airplay etc., not to mention a fickle public who often doesn't know what it wants. Like most fans, I had an opinion, but I didn't have a clue. The only thing I knew for sure was that Raspberries was just too amazing to "be" for such a short time and disappear forever, so I *knew* it would be back eventually. And now, Eric's rockin'! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Darlene,I was close enough to the music industry myself--watching & helping my close friends struggle w/ record companies & indifferent radio formats for years as they never once strayed from their artistic ambitions whilst creating a solid fanbase & musical output to be proud of... much like Eric & the 'Berries...I've also interviewed a lot of musicians (i.e. David Bowie, Julian Lennon, Blur, Cheap Trick, Ramones) & have followed the music business close enough to know what's a "career" choice vs. an artistic one...Eric is definitely one of those artists whose had to fight and struggle with countless uphill battles-- first and foremost reintroducing the USA to middle period '60s pop/rock when it was the most unfashionable thing to do in 1972... the fact that he did it, still boggles the mind...I also DIDN'T say he should've done such and such instead of what he did... I was just trying to point out how rare it was that he sang ROCK songs as far as the overall picture is concerned... I think the majority of his career choices he's been happy with... AND I think it does not reflect badly on him as an artist... Some people are born rockers (i.e. Lemmy, Joey Ramone, Little Richard, Keith Richards) while some can't be defined as such (i.e. Paul McCartney, Rod Stewart, Bowie) because it's not what's at the core of their being... Surely they can rock with the best, but we also know that they're either middle of the road type people or more adventurous in spirit... Recently I wrote Robert Christgau of The Village Voice to rave about how incredible of a rock singer Eric was when the 'Berries performed on 11/26... I would NOT do such a thing if I didn't believe he had "IT"... I also went on to say that it put people like Mick Jagger to shame (any live Stones footage from 1980 on & I usually want to throw something at him)....I do believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I catch your drift, Pat. I know you are a luminary in the music business in your own right. I've known ABOUT you for years--just didn't know you were THAT Pierson until I came on the board.Thanks for clarifying. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill C Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 "Rock & Roll Mama" sounds like something I would've wrote when I was 12 or so. Along with "Get it moving". Sorry, but the songs are sooo predictable. Dave would probably agree that he got a better feel when the Fresh Album featured "It seemed so easy", and later with "Should I wait" which is also very predictable but the boys put it together so well that the song is one of my favorites. "On the Beach" is one of my favorite Eric songs. I also love "Starting Over", but, I think Eric should've noticed the similarities in the intro to "Tiny Dancer" and the vocal was lost in the mix. And that terrible swearing at the begining. Anyway, I don't post much, but I'll be in Cleveland again when the Berries play with the Knack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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