JCraft Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Sorry to not have posted in a while (no I didn't get mad and leave the board because no one would answer my Scott McCarl question)I was wondering what's next. If EC does the one time solo thing, could there be "special guest". Is the Raspberrie reunion officailly over? (I guess the south never really stood a chance, eventhough I did try to bribe Kay & Wally with Mouse ears and steak). We all anticipate the CD/DVD release, but there is some sadness in thinking that it may all be over for good now. So what's next?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneG Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm not sure "What" is next (as in form), but I do believe that there WILL be a "next". That's all that matters to me!Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanTylerVO Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 JCraft..What WAS your Scott McCarl question? I'm a huge fan of his, maybe I can help with an answer?Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCraft Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 I've often asked why Scott wasn't included in the reunion tour---since there were the "overdubs" anyhow, why not use someone with a voice like Scotts?JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 From what I've "heard" around here, it seems that Jim is still a bit bitter that Eric and Wally didn't just retire when he and Dave departed after Side 3. The way I've heard it he thinks that if he doesn't acknowledge that Mike and Scott worked on Starting Over, then it never happened... Since Wally and Dave worked with Scott on the Eric-less reunion and the "Refreshed" CD, it's apparent that they have no problem with him and Eric has always spoken highly of him.I do know that the House of Blues show wanted the original line-up... or at least that's what we've been told as Jim had first contact with them...I too am a fan of Scott's work; not only with the band but some of his later stuff. I've always hoped that they'd find a way to bring him into the group again. If you think about it, and with the Overdubs along for the ride, there's no reason that the 'Berries can't become a five-man band... unless it's just a matter of not wanting to split the monies a fifth way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspberrywine Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Nothing against Scott McCarl for sure, but Dave Smalleys work expanded the musical landscape of Raspberries and helped to make Side 3 a pop classic in my opinion. I dont think there was anything Scott wrote that Eric couldnt have easily written. Just my opinion or brought to the table. I was glad to see the orginal line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinberries Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 i too have lobbied to get them down south (austin, texas anyway). wondered if anyone might be able to help or know of a resource (this is from my recent posting in the 'take it or leave it' section of the mssg board - the moderator took out my copy where i posted it in this, & the 'everything' sections, where i figured it'd reach the widest audience). anyway, hated to miss their reunions, thanks if anyone help, no worries if not:------- i don't have cable & didn't get to see (nor did i realize it ran) the VH1 Classic episode of "Hangin' With the Raspberries" which apparently documented their reunion gigs to a degree - does anyone have a copy on dvd or vhs they can send me? i'd be glad to compensate you for any costs incurred; contact me via email asap - thanks! - Kyle ketie@earthlink.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCraft Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 I didn't mean to turn this into a Scott posting, I was just kind of picking on someone else's post---I don't think Jim has a problem playiong with Scott, because he was the drummer on the "off the Vine" tape. I had the pleasure of swapping IM's with Jim a few years ago, and he seems to be one of the nicest people in the world. Anyhow---I'm still more concerned with what happens next with Eric and/or the Raspberries.JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Of all the reasons, I would bet money has nothing to do with it. With the unresolved group dynamics between the original four, there were way more than enough obstacles to overcome just to have a reunion. Adding Overdubs as wonderful and talented as they are, presented even more to work out. I've never heard anyone say anything negative about Scott, but combining members from both batches of Berries would have been an incredible complication.The fact that there is a cd and dvd in the works is a major coup, in my estimation. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin23 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Count me in on those of us who are thinking positive thoughts on another tour date..early next year. My sisters and I are ready to wear those black jackets again.Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Robin, As you know, you'll be happily joined by Kathy and me, who just cannot wait for a chance to wear our jackets! I'm feeling positive vibes about a tour next year also. Tours usually follow a new cd/dvd! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllvnbil Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Just for the record,,, and I hope that Eric and the guys don't mind me posting this,,, to my understanding,, Scott was asked to make an appearance at the LA show but he declinded the offer. No bad feelings or anything like that. Scott is about as gracious of a gentleman as they come. His thoughts were that the reunion was about Eric, Wally, Dave & Jim reuniting. I still wished that he would at least came to the show to say hello. I haven't seen him since the sessions for his "Play On" CD. B.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early Wynn Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I posed the Scott in LA question and Eric responded something to the effect that he felt Scott deserved a lot more than just parading him up on stage for a song or two. I would have loved to have heard his voice ripping thru "Play On" and "Cry." I've heard the story about Jim's feelings that the only Raspberries was the original four members. Seeing how "Starting Over" is my favorite CD of their four (not to mention the first one I heard), I obviously don't agree. I would have been happy if the reunion was Wally, Eric, Scott and Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim From Wisconsin Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 My 2 cents worth...Add me to the "Original 4" camp. The magic of the reunion was seeing the original 4 together on stage again. The addition of the Overdubs helped fill out the sound for the concerts - They are all excellent talents themselves! Of course, once a reunion happens, there will always be people who will second guess everything.I still have trouble believing that I actually got to see the Raspberries twice! If there are more shows down the road, that would be great, but the fond memories of Chicago and Waukesha will always be with me.Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 if all is true,i respect scott even more now,he knew the concentration was on the original lineup and he respected that..that's class,nothing more..that does'nt make headlines anymore..kudos to scott if the stories are totally true..lol,chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 There would have been NOTHING negative about Scott getting on stage for a couple of numbers he co-wrote and originaly sang, with the guys that were there along side him during the greatest achievement of his musical career...Or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Yeah, you gotta appreciate Scott for not running around and belly-aching over this. I disagree that the "magic" is the original four. I really like Dave's input to the group as well as I do Scott's, but I think the magic of Raspberries is the meshing of Eric and Wally. Maybe that's because they continued on after Jim and Dave quit or were fired or whatever happened.For me Starting Over was the pinnacle of the Raspberries career. It was also the album that finally won Rolling Stone over, as well as many other critics, to the quality of rock that the band offered.The fact that the reunion featured offerings from Starting Over and the fact that Scott had performed all the other major songs from the first three albums during the touring he did negates the idea that he shouldn't be a part of the tour because they weren't focusing on Starting Over songs.No disrecpect meant to Dave, Jim, Scott, Wally OR Eric here; but I just can't believe that all five guys couldn't have had the opportunity to work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Scott is a terrific songwriter and singer and a total gentleman. When he heard about the reunion, he sent me an email and declined any invitation to play in L.A. on the basis that this particular show was about "the original four." It was one of the sweetest, saddest emails I have ever received, and, if truth be told, it kind of broke my heart a little bit to read it. Scott basically said he'd feel like the "odd man out" and he didn't want to do that. I respected his decision at that time. ec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Eric's unsent rebuttal email back to Scott:"Scott, I understand your take on the invite. But you were a big part of that last album, and we are all cool with you getting up there and singing a couple of our co-writes. Our loyal fans are the best! They are going to pack the house. And I don't think you would regret getting up there and helping us rock the house and feeling the love and admiration some have waited 30 years to give you, even if it's just for a couple of songs...Think about it, Buddy. It might lead to future projects that you could be a part of...No promises."So, unless "American Idol" was on that night, that would have convinced Scott do the gig... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 thanks for the reply eric..lol,chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Chris, how do we know when you are sincere, when you "lol" on every post?Let's try this:"Tony, Shut The F--- Up!...chris"See, that way I know you mean it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecstasy Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Eric, thank you for your thoughts. You've said that "band business is band business", and rightfully so. It was thoughtful of you to share this with us. I haven't gotten to see any of you together yet and hope I'll have the opportunity --- whatever and however the band decides. In the meantime, I think I'll just trust your judgement and wait to see what happens.<smile> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Scott's decision was very "final." Everyone has the utmost respect for him. I think it would have been unfair to "trivialize" his contribution by having him come up and play a song or two. He was far more important than that. He declined before we even made the offer. I understand how it might have been uncomfortable for him. No one knows what the future holds. Sometimes it's just best to let things play out. ec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Sometimes it's just best to let things play out. ec ...and "Play On"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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