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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WendyWorld:

<strong> Now before Muzza realizes that once again I've somehow turned this thread off topic, let me add that my post was directed to John P... wink

Muzza cool

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Well LC that's YOUR OPINION that it's "overstating things." I know of his work in music and other involvements, and I'm sure I'm not alone. So maybe it's an overstatement to you. I agree, move along.

What's with the caps? Usually, that signifies anger, right? And why did you post almost the same retort, more or less, two times?

Well, regardless.... Self-important writing has always turned me off. I like writers who stick to the subject, and don't inject themselves into every paragraph (unless, of course, the format calls for it.)

I'll also say this: I stand by my comment that it's an overstatement to call the writer in question "quite well-known." Yep, it's way, way, way overstated. He'd probably agree. Take a poll of music fans and ask whether they know who wrote the book The 100 Worst Rock'n'Roll Records of All Time. Most people won't have a clue. And ask if the name rings a bell. I'm sure Jimmy is known in certain circles, but to me, Lester Bangs or Dave Marsh are closer to "quite well-known."

Besides, per Jimmy's own blog, he hasn't written about music in more than a decade. You note that he's gone on to "other involvements," but I bet you'd have been hard-pressed to specify them without actually doing the google work that Eric just did.

In my opinion, of course. And I sincerely hope you don't mind that I disagree with you, Marvin.

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No need to attack anyone... the book was shelved under humor and satire. The whole thing was tongue and cheek. The minute I realized that I dropped my rage! The book is pointless... nothing more to say... move along... (did I do it right guys?)

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I just caught up with this thread. Even well known people who have made sense in the past can lay a huge goose egg, and evidently these two did.

Very well said, highwayangel. A million fans around the world aren't wrong about ABM.

It sounds like Guterman and his partner in crime satirize when they don't know what they're talking about. ABM has stood the test of time and has been hailed (and performed by) the creme de la creme of artists.

These guys haven't yet, and from their comments about Paul and Queen, it sounds like they either have a long way to go to understand great music or they've been smoking something mind-altering since they wrote for Rolling Stone.

smile --Darlene

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It's a great song, especially the long version with the classical segment. Elton John did something similar (infusion of a piano led classical segment), and even took it a step further with his "Tonight". And Neil Diamond took it a step even further with his album "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" (what an album that is!)

ABM isn't close to my favorite, but it, Elton's "Tonight" and Neil's "JLS" is the type of music genre I probably like best -classical fused with popular melodies.

I'd love it if Eric or Elton did an album of songs in this genre type.

I'd bet it would be pretty great!

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Don't you think that "All By Myself" was a gutsy career move? I do.

You write that album, and create this song, after you have earned a reputation as the American Steve Marriott, a bona fide "Rocker (I hate that term, except in that "Boogeyin' since I ditched the stroller" sense-that's cool as hell)" So, what do you do for an encore? You wouldn't normally come up with a 7+ minute balladic ode to melancholy and existential estrangement, would you? Brave.

Music is subjective, and those writers may say what they will, but, what keeps "All By Myself" from decaying into soporific schmultz is the fact that it's HONEST. It comes from a pathos that is genuine, and expresses it with an eloquent directness. In the original recording, it features not only that amazing guitar break, but a beautiful piano solo from the writer himself.

The full-length recording is not a song-it's an event. It's an expression of the dark side of loneliness like no other (I kind of blame the 45 RPM single format for robbing the song of its gravitas and giving it its undeserved reputation, but music is, indeed, a business). As I've said before, the whole album took me through a time when I lost my girl and a lot of friends, and that song contains that spark of recognition that one needs to not feel so alone in that condition.

In the final analysis, immitation is the sincerest form of flattery. How many subsequent songwriters made entire careers off of ripping off "All By Myself" poorly and repeatedly? Don't have enough fingers and toes to count them all, do you?

I think that when people diss "All By Myself," it's because the honesty and vivid expression thereof makes them feel vulnerable and uncomfortable, and it's easier to deflect that reaction by "toughening up," making fun of, or dismissing, the very thing which provokes it.

Anyway, all I can do here is blither, and not express the merits of, "All By Myself" very well. The proof is in the putting. Eric, if he didn't have his intuitive taste and dignity, could pimp bigger than anyone in the rap game, because of that song.

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Of course everyone will have a different opinion about ABM, as they will about any song. Its universal appeal to fans and the top artists who have covered it means it speaks to them in a unique way, even if it doesn't to everyone. It's a beautiful song. It's not my favorite Eric song--She Remembered is. And there are people who don't agree with me. Songs speak to the listeners' hearts in unique ways. One thing that's a fact is that Eric's songwriting style just hits people right between the eyes and gives them something that reaches far into their hearts. That's an amazing talent. And, as Crg2 points out, he's always made gutsy moves and gone out on a limb for the art. He's authentic and that cuts right to a person's emotional core.

True talent.

smile --Darlene

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