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So, I posted our annual "Happy Birthday" message to Eric yesterday. 38 hours later we have generated:

14 Birthday Messages

This morning, I posted a similar "Happy Birthday" message on the EricCarmenForum Facebook page and in 12 hours generated:

2,961 Engagements
141 Birthday Messages (and counting)
31 Shares

Just saying.

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Rhonda,

I took down the EricCarmen.com Message Board a while back due to lack of fan involvement and was lobbied to re-open it. The point of my post was to show how little engagement the website Forum seems to garner in a world of social media. People just aren't using Message Boards any more. Ergo, the above statistics. 

In other words, bad news. Let me enlarge that emoji for you.

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Yet, I consistently see hundreds, if not thousands of visitors to the site based on how many hits certain posts generate. I don't know why we have so many lurkers, but the people are stopping by and are interested in what's going on here. Those are hard numbers that can't be dismissed! Hang in there, Bernie!!

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Bernie...Gotcha...embarassed though.   Totally missed the word Facebook and how my mind played tricks on me thinking that was happy face. Geez, where are those reading glasses? And actually the cobwebs on the windows picture hadn't surfaced yet when I first looked. No excuses. But glad for all the people that are still here and posting though.. it seems like they are the dedicated few.  I did think it was going to be an  announcement about taking down the messageboard.   So I was glad to see you didn't say that at least.  Not a fan of facebook really. Thanks for everything.   Can't blame a girl for having a positive attitude.🙂

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We've definitely had better state-of-the-website reports. When you reopened this board, Bern, you noted people were abandoning FB, while message boards like this one, depending on the topic, were starting to get more action again. There was a Facebook backlash for reasons that some here have touched on above. But FB is still Grand Central Station—a flurry of activity, with people coming and going. Message boards like this one are for longer stays. Just tough to get people to come by!

The FB pages have the benefit of volume and reach. They're omnipresent, and they get the benefit of auto-generated emails lures that drag people in. One advantage EC.com always had was the presence of EC himself. I'm sorry he doesn't feel it's worth his time to pop in and do some of that great conversational writing he used to do. It's been almost 10 years since his last writings.

So, left to own our devices, we've chewed on every aspect of EC and 'berries fandom possible, and then some: We've ranked and rated songs with creative angles.... We've done revisionist and "hindsight" history.... We've reminisced.... We've shared photos, rare and common.... We've enjoyed audio and video rarities.... We've seen Kirk's steady presentations of EC-related YouTube efforts.... We've pounced on anything and everything that could be classified as news (from Eric's tweeting career to the sale of his catalog).... We've had Bundles turn into a Hall of Fame researcher, digging through the Internet's vast archives for related mentions.... We've started acknowledging (more than ever) those who have passed away, and set off our own virtual cemetery for tributes.... And, of course, we've sliced and diced the EC and 'berries catalogs every which way—and in the grand scheme, they're not very deep catalogs in terms of quantity. 

Like Rhonda noted, we appreciate all who do show up. Especially when we're dealing with sweeping curveballs life is throwing at us. Yet as you note, Bernie, the size of the crowd continues to frustrate. It's especially puzzling as to why the aforementioned Facebook pages are overrun with former EC.com board posters. Where'd everybody go?

We need a membership drive.

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A few months ago we talked of a master email list of members.  

It's likely that the list may be stale with some email addresses being defunct or abandoned, but if a mass EC.com reunion invitation could be sent, that might bring some folks back.

Could the FB Raspberries/EC forum be used as a platform for an EC.com membership drive?

I know some of the Raspberries forums have merged and consolidated on FB.

Maybe run a post in the Japanese FB EC forum.

Have seen Adventurine here, but not Hossy in a long time.

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I'm open to suggestions.

As for Eric, I called to wish him a Happy Birthday yesterday. He's doing great and has some interesting things in the works. Nothing to reveal right now, but you should be hearing some news soon. He's currently not on social media at all, and enjoying the break.

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Thanks  Bernie for the update on Eric. Above all, even the musical aspect, I am so relieved  in knowing  he is doing well and thriving. So to hear that he has something in the works, yay!  It is interesting how some posts can gather 40,000 views out of nowhere for a seemingly   minor topic (but no comments). But others gather only a few views with no replies for what I'd say is a major topic. But that's how these things go. Very curious what's in the works from Eric right now.  I always said, even if he just put out an instrumental piano-based album,  that would be so amazing. It's not easy to keep up your vocals as you get older,  you have to be using your voice steadily and  protecting it.  One thing I've observed from being on the site, was the many videos that weren't accessible but placed here. In some of them,  when you watch Eric doing piano instrumental parts, you see how music moves him. Even on the reunion videos when he's playing piano instrumental parts, you see how the music moves him greatly there as well.  It's a thing of emotional beauty to watch him play piano.  I always thought... the music is always in him...he must be creating.   How can he possibly walk past a piano every day and not be touching it?  Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Thanks Bernie.

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13 hours ago, Raspbernie said:

I'm open to suggestions.

As for Eric, I called to wish him a Happy Birthday yesterday. He's doing great and has some interesting things in the works. Nothing to reveal right now, but you should be hearing some news soon. He's currently not on social media at all, and enjoying the break.

😎

Thank you, Bernie, for that update! Rest assured, there are many of us who come here to cut straight to the chase to hang out with the EC "diehards". Even though I post on FB, it's such a time suck in general, that I only check in there about once a day to see if anyone has contacted us about obtaining music, commissioning an arrangement, etc. 

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  • 4 weeks later...
On 9/7/2022 at 7:18 PM, LC said:

It's a great site. I think it needs a regular event to draw in some people. Kyle, what if you played a couple songs on piano live, every Friday night? Live-streamed at EC.com.... Hey, Bernie is open to ideas!  

That's something I would be willing to consider doing. Just fair warning, I can't sing 'em as well as Eric does though 🤣

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