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An Eric Carmen "concert" that could be done


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When The Essential Eric Carmen was released in March of 2014, there was talk that it might lead to a tour. There was a lot of excitement here on the boards about that possibility. Unfortunately, that didn't happen and most of us have resigned ourselves to the almost certain possibility that EC will never do another concert. In interviews promoting the album, EC talked about the high cost and the difficulties of doing a concert and/or tour that would meet his standards. He wasn't going to do anything substandard just to make a buck. He wasn't going to embarrass himself. I fully understand that and appreciate his devotion and high standards. We were hoping the album would finally get EC the credit and acclaim that he deserved. Even if we didn't get a tour, I was hoping he would at least have a concert or two in Cleveland. Sadly, it didn't happen. No matter how great we fans think EC is, he just doesn't have enough fans to support the cost of a concert/tour that would meet his standards. Also, at his age, he has to decide if he can perform a concert that would meet his standards. We would be more than satisfied with a "less than perfect" Eric Carmen concert...he would not. Like he wrote...perfection is consuming.

This is a problem for all older artists with a smaller following, no matter how devout their fans are. I think this format would work for them, too.

Hear me out before you dismiss my "concert" suggestion. I will say that this format is not totally original. In fact, it has worked to promote new albums for decades. It was even used to promote The Essential Eric Carmen...it just wasn't used as a concert format. This is what I would do:

I would put EC in a small venue with great acoustics and a great sound system. I would put him on stage with the piano of his choice and a few guitars of his choice, but I would not have him sing. That's right, I would not have him sing. I would have somebody on stage with him interviewing him, preferably Bernie but it could be a DJ type. Like the album promotions that have been on the radio for decades, they could talk about a song and then play it. They would play the remastered versions that meet EC's standards. While each song played, there could be a large screen behind/above EC showing slideshows and/or videos related to the song being played. Lyrics could be added, but we all know the lyrics! :D We know Eric loves to talk about the history of his songs. He would have the freedom to talk as much as he wants between/about each song. We would eat it up. He could play the "concert" in a scripted, predetermined order, or...my choice would be to ad lib each show. Field questions from the audience, questions submitted on this website, etc. While talking about the songs, Eric could play intros or parts of songs on the piano or guitar. He could explain and/or demonstrate why he wrote a song the way that he did. Let each "concert" be unique. If each concert was unique, his devoted fans would want to go to each one, knowing it would never be the same show twice. I think this could play as often as Eric wanted to do it, once a month, a few times a year, or just once a year. Heck, we'd settle for just one concert. If EC didn't want to travel, he could just perform in Cleveland and we'd come to him. I could also see this as a show that could travel at an affordable cost. I think each show should be filmed and the DVD's could be sold. I would buy the DVD even if I went to the concert. If each show was unique, each DVD would be collectable. The "concerts" could be marketed as an intimate evening with Eric Carmen...a meet and greet event featuring the music and thoughts of Eric Carmen. (Did I mention that each concert ticket sold would include a meet and great?) The DVD's would be available to fans that couldn't make it to the concerts. The fans that can make it to the concerts would pay a crazy price for that show. The advantages to Eric for this type of concert are many. The saving of time, expense, and trouble to put together a band and crew that could put on a show that would meet Eric's standards. The saving of time, expense, and trouble to rehearse such a show. The saving of the cost to promote a concert in a venue big enough to be profitable. The saving of the risks and costs involved if enough tickets weren't sold for a bigger venue. I'm sure there are many more. I can't help but believe that Eric would enjoy this type of show. It would also allow his kids and his wife to see Eric where he belongs...on a stage in front of his adoring fans. They could see, firsthand, what his music means to so many of us.

Anyway, that's my thoughts. Probably not much chance of it actually happening, but it's a "concert" that could happen...and one that I would pay dearly to attend!

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No, it's a new post. Nice concept—could even be sort of a good way to say goodbye to fans and cap his career. Yes, other artists have done this sort of thing—I saw a great one with Billy Joel, for example. Of course, Billy's audience is a little bigger, right? Not sure there would be enough EC fans left. Sill, dreams are forever, so... good post.

PS: I missed that "Evening with Eric Carmen" event. But I've heard about it—some nice posts here about it that only Kirk can find. 

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Duane, you obviously put a lot of thought into your post. I started to cringe, then became rather rapt at what I was reading. Eric could even do it from his house, and the rest of us could watch from our own homes, for a small fee:) 

The Evening with Eric Carmen was about as close as you could get to this format. The evening started with an interview, a question and answer session, and Eric playing some music. The second segment had the overdubs (as they would be called on the Raspberries reunion shows) joining Eric on stage for a concert.


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I remember some of the promotions for The Essential Eric Carmen back in March of 2014 were posted here. Some were audio interviews where they would talk to Eric about the remastering of the songs, the history of the songs, etc. Eric used to enjoy talking and writing about music...his own and other's. (The most life this site ever had was when Eric was participating. We loved it when he weighed in on any subject). He also talked about a possible tour, but....he mentioned the costs of doing a concert to his standards might prevent a tour from happening. That's when I thought about this. I knew how much we loved to hear him talk about his music, and we had so many questions. I didn't care if the music was live, maybe nobody else would either. I  thought a Q and A would be right up Eric's alley. This format seemed perfect to me. He could talk all he wanted, play a song, and talk some more. We would eat it up. A Meet and Greet would be icing on the cake! I was going to wait to see if any concerts actually happened before I suggested it, then my life changed. My wife, who had health issues anyway, had a blood clot that caused emergency surgery on May 20, 2014. She survived the surgery but spent the next two weeks in ICU, mostly sedated. Just when we thought she was recovering, she coded and passed away on June 4th, 2014. I didn't listen to any music for quite a while. I didn't even have the radio on in my car. I lost all interest in this site and everything else. By the time I came back, this site was pretty dead. Eric had left the site and a lot of the regulars had moved on to facebook and/or twitter. Bernie finally pulled the plug on the place. I thought everything was gone forever. I was very excited to get a message from Elle saying that Bernie was firing the message boards back up! Thanks, Bernie!!! It's been nice to see some of my favorite people back on the boards, along with some new ones. I've also enjoyed reading a lot of the old threads.

It felt good to finally get this off my chest, even though I know the odds of Eric ever doing anything now are slim. I just wish he would visit the site from time to time. 

Thanks for listening to me. I've got a couple more topics that I've got to get out at some point soon! :D

P.S. - I'm doing fine now. After 4 years of telling people that I would never date or marry again, I crossed paths with a girl I went to high school with. She's a very popular retired middle school teacher and had never married. She was just waiting for me.:D We met at a weekly trivia game after being invited by a mutual friend. After months of talking and texting, we decided to try dating. It was both the scariest thing and the easiest thing that I'd ever done. Everything just clicked and fell into place. I had to deal with some guilt, but I knew I had my late wife's blessing. She knew she didn't have a lot of years left and talked about it from time to time. I told her that I would never remarry and she told me that she didn't want me to be alone. I just had to give myself permission. The guy that was never going to remarry celebrated his 2nd anniversary on February 9th. My second life is going well. Didn't mean to get into all this...it just happens when I get on a keyboard!:D You people will never know what you've meant to me over the years. I'm glad we're back.

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Duane...glad you’ve battled back...life interferes with living a lot of the time...Sorry for your misfortunes, but it’s strange how this site can be a sort of catharsis or comfort for many of us...Keep posting...You were always one of my favorites...Also, get Elle back here...Not too hard on the page or the eyes...

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