Eric Carmen Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Funny thing is, I, too, respect Marvin's opinions. He doesn't have to "love" every single track I've ever cut. Hell, I could list twenty Beatles tracks that I think are AWFUL!!! I'll tell you what "got me" more than anything else Marvin has ever said. It was something like "I learned a long time ago, love the music, NOT the musician." I paraphrase, but that was the gist of it. What that said to me is simply this: Marvin can like and respect my musical achievements, but that doesn't mean he has to like me. I respect his viewpoint, but it irks me when someone I don't know passes judgement on me PERSONALLY, especially based on bogus information, fed to them by people with an agenda. I hate having to defend myself. I can't really do it, without calling Wally and Kay liars. And so, for the most part, I have just let it go. Honestly, I literally spend zero time thinking about Wally and Kay, until they kick up some new dirt. This stuff is ancient history, and the truth is out there for anyone inclined to look, and add two and two together. Wally's bitterness saddens me. It saddens Jim, too. Michael and Scott were caught in the crossfire. The damage Wally has done to ALL of our lives cannot be calculated. And yet, HE feels "wronged." I'm done talking about this. I don't want this website to become a bummer, and a source of discord. Negativity always attracts more negativity. Somebody post something positive. Let's move on. e 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Eric.......Your interview tomorrow.......Do what you do best!........"Knock our socks off tomorrow"!......... AND........"Our thoughts will be with you." "Good luck"!..... ~~~Nancy.~~~ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Something positive for E. I mentioned to Harry Maslin, who stated that he LOVES the TYM album, that the two of you should work together again. Just a thought & a question. Is it possible that Harry could have been your 'George Martin"? Jimmy I. was great, no doubt, but something about the sound & vibe of your collaboration with Harry seems so special, as if it was a true collaboration. So the question- would you consider working with Harry again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkpat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Yes, good call, we are all looking forward to the interview tomorrow. Someone please post a link so we can listen online! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Something else positive...Eric, how does Brian Wilson like "Brand New Year"! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I don't know that he's ever heard it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aventurine Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 It seems thet it is the first step towards the Imperial Rule Assistance Association. I think it is one of the reason that it isn't active recentry here. We should a lively discussion with respect each other. You should not oppress others opinion even if you are not like the opinion. Because it is the way to find brand new and move forward! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Surely, one of Brian's band members would have shared this song with him...he would absolutely love it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I suddenly understand the saying of wanting to "bang my head against a wall". Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Check this out! for something positive! Bernie 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 And to follow Bernie..one of my favorite Beatle Tunes.. Enjoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I find it incredible that they'd flushed out just about the whole arrangement, vocal and instrumental, and still had that cockamamie vocal ending! I wonder, at what point John or Paul ( or perhaps, Sir George Martin ) suggested the notes we have heard at the end of the chorus all of our lives. That change certainly made a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE!!! e 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Nice to hear 8 Days without the Dave Dexter reverb overkill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim From Wisconsin Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Here's something positive - I think the longest Winter in recent history is finally over in the Midwest! I turned my furnace off this past week, and it's nice to be able to cruise down the road with the windows open! Tim 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Absolutely fascinating to hear the Beatles creative process! Bernie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I remember hearing a tape of John singing "No Reply", and when he got to the part where he sings "I saw the light", he sang the line once. Didn't repeat it. I was incredulous! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okstevens Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Finally I have something to add to this thread. Eric 20? 20 Beatles songs? I always thought if I didn't know a song was a Beatle song would I have the almost instant love for it. Same with just about any Cleveland group. I JUST LOVE CLEVELAND GROUPS! The one Beatle song that I hit next on the ipod almost always is the "Long and (whiny) Winding Road". I just hate the beginning of that song. Anyone else want to add to the list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Wow, stunned that someone dislikes "The Long and Winding Road". It's probably my favorite. A beautiful song with great lyrics. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdy Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I don't hate any Beatle songs. But I'm not crazy about "Twist and Shout". Too much harmonica. Or is that "Love Me Do"? Well, it's one or the other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperdoll82 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 "Love Me Do" is the one that's heavy on harmonica. As much as I love The Beatles, "The Long and Winding Road" is not a favorite of mine, either. I don't hate it; it's just not in my top 20 or 50. Cheryl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneNR Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 "Twist and Shout" I think, was originally done by the Isley Brothers, and was featured in "Ferris Beuhler's Day Off" --- you know, the scene on the parade float . . .Ringo had talked about recording "Twist and Shout" and that John Lennon's throat was really tore up by the time they went to record it, but it worked with the song. Heavy harmonica is "Love Me Do", but a better one with a lot of harmonica is "I Should Have Known Better". There's quite a few of the later stuff like "Get Back", "Come Together", mostly the psychedelic tunes I just can't appreciate. I also have "The Long And Winding Road" way the heck down on my like list for the Beatles. (A church I attended actually altered the lyrics to "Come Together" to make it about Jesus Christ and used it, more than once, for praise and worship before the sermon--HORRENDOUS! I may not like this song, but turning it into sloppy seconds to sing to the Lord, THEY MADE IT EVEN WORSE!!! yuk! I always left the sanctuary, refusing to sing that to the Lord. ) AnneNR 6 6 __/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Eric, I made a similar response/comments back when this "situation" began. I also agree with Nancy about hitting your head on the wall. From what I've come to know about Marv, he's a good person and a big fan of yours still. However, delving into topics he KNOWS will upset you specifically isn't kosher here and why should it be? My thoughts on why you'd taken Wally's name off the GATW credit were also requested by a few folks. Since I don't recall you ever telling me exactly why, I said you didn't have to give Wally credit in the first place. It's one of the reasons I specifically wanted to support your comments when you began the KB's FB page post and I was online at the time. Something I believe everyone should remember too is because we are writing and trying to share details and emotional feelings and situations via summation(s), things may come across as snarky or even hateful. I have strong opinions myself, however with regard to Eric and his music, I'm generally, kinda, sorta, always on the absolute positive end of the spectrum. I love my guys here, but Eric is first on the list. Cayenne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I don't know that he's ever heard it. Now, don't we all think something needs to be done about this if true? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 It's difficult to write popular songs that are hits. Wally should be the very first to admit that. If he could, that would be astounding. But, with all the bands, that didn't happen. Even with Wally being in any band that he played in. It was impossible, even for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 As someone else around here said, meeting Eric was the best thing that ever happened to Wally. I'll stop here on this positive note. Going to post more about The Small Faces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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