LC Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 A great old thread—short but sweet with interesting responses, especially Hossy's rare photos and Wendy's anti-feminist rant. Love Wendy! I wish she'd come around again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Oh—the reason I stopped in. I re-ranked my final rankings. I elevated "Fooling Myself" to the top with an A+ and gave "You Need Some Lovin'" a boost from B to B+ (a good ol' pounding-piano rock'n'roller). I also lowered the title track from B to C+. And... I lowered "Sleep with Me" from B- to C because the pleading, pandering, and begging hasn't aged well, in my humble opinion. I reserve the right to change my ratings again later, depending on my mood. :-) 1. Fooling Myself A+ 2. It Hurts Too Much A 3. Lost in the Shuffle B+ 4. All for Love B+ 5. You Need Some Lovin' B+ 6. Tonight You're Mine: B 7. The Inside Story B- 8. Sleep With Me: C Overall, the LP is strong and still sounds fresh—a nice split of power ballads and the hardest-edged songs on any of Eric's solo albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Well, it's been almost a decade since we rated this album. I'll give it another go: 1. It Hurts Too Much (A) 2. All For Love (A) 3. Sleep With Me (A) 4. Foolin' Myself (A) 5. Tonight You're Mine (A-) 6. The Inside Story (A-) 7. Lost In The Shuffle (B) 8. You Need Some Lovin' (B-) It's only an 8 song album, but I have 6 songs that are some version of an 'A', which is why this album is my favorite Eric solo album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Nice, Kirk—you're more fond of "Inside Story" and "Sleep with Me" than I am, but otherwise, we're in sync. It's amazing that a couple of our former regular posters had "Foolin' Myself" all the way at the bottom of their rankings. Well, James got it right!—and now, I'm on board with him. And, I had to elevate "Fooling Myself" because it really is a beauty—a big, sweeping ballad with a classical-music feel. And clearly, Eric was at a peak, vocally. And check out the comments under this YouTube playing of the song—it clearly moves people. As one guy wrote, "Amazing song! Really cuts deep. It's hard when you love someone and they don't love you, no matter how much good and kindness you do for them." Another poster ID'd the part of he song (at 3:08) where Eric nicks Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2, Second Movement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I think the reason some people don't respond better to this song is it's similarity to All By Myself in the song structure. To me, it's better than All By Myself, and that's saying a lot! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Good point, Kirk. And I never thought about it vs. "All By Myself," but yeah... this might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Andiemae was very creative and had great taste in music. She, more than anyone, "got" Foolin Myself. I think that may have been the song that drew her to Eric Carmen in the 1st place. What a powerful song it is. Eric was hitting one of his zeniths when he brought us this song. James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkpat Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 It Hurts Too Much All For Love Sleep With Me Fooling Myself Inside Story Lost In The Shuffle Tonight You’re Mine You Need Some Lovin’ I still listen to the first five songs of this grouping often and two through five could exchange spots by the hour. “Fooling Myself” is a song that as I have gotten older, I have learned to appreciate it much more than when I first heard it. Once you’ve lived this song, your heart will never beat the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Pat, your list and mine are nearly identical. Flip flop 6 & 7 and they are! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I see that I ranked "It Hurts Too Much" above "Fooling Myself". That has changed. "Fooling Myself" MAY be my favorite EC song. I'm sure somewhere I ranked all of them. Wonder where it fell on my list at the time. Hmm...as I think about it, I rank "The Way We Used To Be" above it for sure. Geez!...he has so many great songs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I always loved this album. I usually skipped a couple of the songs, so I'm not going to rank them. I will say that "Foolin' Myself" is my favorite song on the album...and one of my all time favorite EC songs. "All For Love" is number 2 for me, and 3 through 6 change all the time. Since "It Hurts Too Much" wasn't the hit for EC that it should have been, I always thought it would have been perfect for Bruce Springsteen to cover during his big Born in the USA run of the mid 80's. His voice would have done the song justice and I think it would have been a big hit for him, considering his popularity at that time (Born in the USA, Dancing in the Dark, Glory Days, I'm on Fire, etc.). It just seemed, to me, to be a perfect match for his voice and his style at that time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Underrated Eric. That’s what popped into my head when this song popped in front of me on YouTube. Top-quality, prime-cut pop drenched in ‘60s influences... and even some sax—rare for Eric. The few times I heard this on the radio back in the day, it was a major kick. Eric was in really good voice... and this deserved Top 10 status. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Strong song for sure, I probably haven't appreciated it to the degree I should have, for some reason. When it was released as a single I lived in Tampa, in my last year of undergrad at U of S Florida. I don't recall ever hearing it on the radio, though I wasn't a big radio listener while living in Tampa. James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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