S_O_L Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 wow..nice..finally got a chance to listen to it this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelina Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Something tells me there's more to Clive Davis' stubborn reaction to Eric's recordings in the late 80's than meets the eye. Wasn't Clive hellbent on ec recording other composer's songs? Eric scores a HUGE hit with "Hungry Eyes" (not penned by ec and thus bolstering Davis' assertions about Eric being a song stylist, even though Davis had nothing to do with that song). Then, the audacity of it all, Eric has a bigger hit with "MMLC" which he co-wrote. I just get this uneasy feeling that Clive might have just wanted to keep ec under his thumb a bit. Besides...Eric was having success without Clive's input at this point. HmmmmmWhile my imagination is in full gear........I wonder what type of working relationship Davis had/if any with Jimmy Ienner. I reckon jealousy runs thick in the music biz....even among the heavyweight powerbrokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahoodore Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Bah, bahoo! You can't just listen to it 1 time. You gotta listen to it 101 times, so you can't sleep, work or even think without hearing that catchy chorus in your head like the rest of us! Bernie Good point Bernie...I guess I am too critical sometimes, but this tune ain't no 'Deanie' 'She did it', "Ecstacy", "All by Myself", "Boats", "Sunrise"....should I continue the list??? Eric has a way of composing weaves of musical fabric, and his lyrics are pretty swell too...this song is not an experience to listen to, its a ditty that reeks of "novelty song"....to me anyway...there is NO WAY that this would be a hit before Ecstacy would!bahoo-bah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Agreed. I'll trade ALL of Eric's covers and co-written songs for any (ANY) one song he wrote "all by himself" in a heartbeat. The cool thing about this track for me is that, without any new Eric Carmen recordings in the pipeline, this helps tide me over until there are some. I just love me some new Eric and "Boardwalk Baby" satisfies the thirst, even though not entirely the taste!Bernie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LobsterLvr Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Oh...and Bernie....nice job on the 'album cover'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Haha! Good thing Eric hooked up with an art director instead of a refrigerator repairman! Bernie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yea, lucky guy! Alternate cover: Can't you just hear this chorus as the theme song for an 80's romantic comedy t.v. show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 This song, again has 80s all over it...I can see why Clive didn' like it...the lyrics are lie something I would write (lame and predictable), the melody goes nowhere...the only this this has going for it is the "summer groovy-feeling"....and of course Eric's raspy voice....I wouldn't buy it, and one listen was enough for me...at least they didn't use the almost expected a key-change at 4:32....3/10I still say Eric on a piano singing HIS songs are way better than anything others have written for him and sometimes with him...and with a big studio production...yuck!bahoo-ey Well it has "80's all over it" 'cos it was written / recorded in the 1980's! The lyrics are no worse than those in "Hungry Eyes", and for my money the melody (and I've listened to it about 10x) is head and shoulders above "H E." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy-Ann Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 While my imagination is in full gear........I wonder what type of working relationship Davis had/if any with Jimmy Ienner. I reckon jealousy runs thick in the music biz....even among the heavyweight powerbrokers. I do know that in one case (with the Bay City Rollers) Clive Davis insisted that Jimmy Ienner produce the album Dedication. It became the band’s top selling album even until this day. I think I have mentioned this before, but with that particular band, the guys got to vote on songs with Davis having the final say. “Let’s Pretend†was a no go with the band...one band member in particular stated he thought it was DREADFUL. Yeah, well, there ya go. But Clive Davis knew better and Ienner put a new twist on the song and it worked perfectly for the teens. I know it did for me.Don’t know why Davis didn’t like this song. Don’t know why he did what he did with any song he chose. I believe in an interview on the Mike Douglas show, Eric stated something to the effect that even though a “test†audience for ABM found it was too depressing, Clive and Eric pushed for it and well, we all know what happened. (Sidebar: When my niece, Katharyn was listening to my Raspberries album CD in my (new---oh yeah!) car with me she said; “Teta, he (Eric) writes the most depressing songs...either he can’t find love or get love or he’s lost a love but, they are REALLY, REALLY good!†Just a case in point of how she, all of 19, did “understand†what he was conveying in his songs and of course, she gets her taste in music from my side of the family! )Anyway...Davis’ track record is an excellent one, but he’s not perfect. Soooooooo...I’m sure there have been many a nay that should have been a yay, and it was the artist and not Davis who (sadly) paid for it in the end. It’s a crap shoot, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Sounds real similar to Diane's co-write with Desmond Child around the same time, "Love On A Rooftop" I think it was called.Kind of weak verses, but a nice chorus. Desmond's song had a stronger build up to the chorus. "Boardwalk Baby" needs to be tweeked in the verses and build up to bring out more...more...something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimvriezen Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Boardwalk Baby: It must be released as soon as possible, it's a great radio tune for most FM radio stations all around the world.....It will get lots of airplay on West-European radio!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondeVelvet Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 The cool thing about this track for me is that, without any new Eric Carmen recordings in the pipeline, this helps tide me over until there are some. Bernie "until there are some"? "until there ARE some"???Bernie, do you know something???? Is this why Eric hasn't been around here in sooo long? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Bernie- does Eric know this is up on the website? Has he heard the 're-mastered' version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Boardwalk Baby: It must be released as soon as possible, it's a great radio tune for most FM radio stations all around the world.....It will get lots of airplay on West-European radio!!! Wim, this song was actually released and recorded in 1988 by Eddie Money. It is on his "Nothing To Lose" album. With all due respect to Eddie, Eric's version wins hands-down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 It's still a decent song, just like it's sister song: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkpat Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 So, is this the songlist for the Eric album we've always wanted? How many millions would this have sold?Make Me Lose ControlNever Say DieHungry EyesThe Devil and The Deep Blue SeaBoardwalk BabyAs Long As We've Got Each Other (Duet with Louis Mandrell)Temporary HeroCindy In the WindWild Wild HeartThe Rock Stops Here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I would add "My Heart Stops" too. I like that Warren for Carmen tune even more than this "Boardwalk Baby" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCraft Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Hey Bernie---With things being as easy as they are electronically, is there a possibility that Eric could "tweek" some of this stuff for his fans and put it out on an order basis? He could make a couple of bucks, and we could be pacified for another year or two!JIM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 That is a great idea. Throw in a few new songs and release a "Double Dose of Eric Carmen".I'll pre-order a few dozen!!!!Eric....Bernie....let's do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Lets hope some of the MIA time Eric has spent recently is in his STATE OF THE ART STUDIO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelina Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 "After You", "Love At Last", "I'll Hold Out My Hand" need a home on an ec album. Damn those songs should be on a few different vocalist's albums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Clive's an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teragram Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I agree with bahoodore on this one. I've listened to it 4 times and still don't like it. Eric's voice sounded great but the song isn't good at all in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Foreigners...So judgemental! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I happen to like this much more than "My Heart Stops". No way this should have been just laying around on some unreleased heap. Oh well! Different tastes is what makes the world go 'round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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