austinberries Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 holy cow - based on input in another thread i posted ('vintage '74 'berries recording'), i decided to pop in 'Starting Over' & it is now blaring as i type thishere's my confession: i, like others at the time, apparently abandoned the Raspberries by the time this album rolled out - what a huge mistake this was!!!as i listen today, i now understand why Rolling Stone gave it such high marks at the time - i mean, this record is so full of gems at literally every turn, it boggles the mindi really like what Eric's collaborations w/ Scott produced..given how the production of their earlier stuff admittedly is part of the charm (a minor part anyway), what's also helps make this record so amazing is how much better the production was by the time it came out, as compared to their earlier ones (& maybe the repro copy i have is remixed/enhanced since then? bought @ raspberriesonline.com)anyway, just had to share my newfound bliss about this record, so there you have it... now it's time for a 'Starting Over' version of the Raspberries reunion!! ;-) (w/ the Overdubs of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 While I think we'd all love to see Scott playing again with the band (and Michael too)...on the other hand, the original 4 (plus the Overdubs) did such an incredible job in bringing 6 of the 11 tunes from "Starting Over" to life on the stage during the reunion shows, that it's hard to quibble. The opening 4 tunes were played in all reunion shows, except maybe at that one abbreviated show in Wisconsin(?), "Starting Over" was played maybe 3 times, and "Cruisin' Music" at least once or twice in the earlier shows. That said, I agree that "Starting" is their best overall album, and yeah, who wouldn't love to see it played in its entirety live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinberries Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 yep, they did do a great job w/ those tunes at the reunion shows; my wife was particularly fond of 'Play On' & 'Overnight' Sensation' of course. wish i could've seen them do 'Starting Over' & 'Cruisin Music'.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Though I was a fan before Starting Over, it was that album that kept the fire burning in me for all those years... I like some of the more "Beatle-esque" stuff ok, but I really dig the way they kicked things up with Starting Over.They had started down that path on Side-3, but the lack of "team-spirit" if you will showed some; with Starting Over (and of course no offense meant toward Dave and Jim) they showed a fire... a spirit; probably capturing somethig that the four of them had had with the first album but that had not translated as well to vinyl (for me at least).I know that we're all thrilled that "the Original Four" are together... and hopefully will do more shows... but the optimistic dreamer in me still has Scott joining them... I mean, sure... the original get-together was for the "Original" Raspberries, but let's face it... with the Overdubs help, the music is great... but it's still not "just" the original four... so clear a spot on the stage and set up a michrophone for Scott...As for Mike? Well, as Bernie put it... he has not touched the drums in a number of years; he might not be interested, who knows? But last I knew Scott was still "dabbling" in music some... though that's been a couple of years back too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I still think Play On from Starting Over would have made a great single.That song blasting over the AM radios during the fall of '74 would have out-classed many other top 40 hits at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessieboo Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Welcome WalrusNice Post, I love hearing from you lucky people who enjoyed this music when it was first released.B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 A HUNDRED WELCOMES TO YOU, WALRUS!!! I too was an established fan before Starting Over came out in 1974. I was devastated when the group broke up but I clung to the hope that Raspberries would reunite or that Eric would come out with some incarnation of the group. I was starving for their music. When Starting Over came out, I instantly bought the album and went to the shows. The sound was different but Eric and Wally's magic was indeed there and Scott and Michael were terrific so I adored this album and welcomed the second batch of Berries as a natural evolution. The Starting Over album has a magic all its own and I got swept up in this new vision Eric and the group presented, while still cherishing the original band and hoping (and actually believing) that one day they too would reunite. Starting Over is chock full of amazing music and it's living proof that Eric and Wally together are a musical life force that is unstoppable and unbeatable. Just something that's meant to be. Like Raspberries. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The production quality of "Starting Over" seemed a big improvement over the first 3 albums. Did they use newer technology on that one, a bigger budget, or did everybody just get smarter in the studio by that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 "Did they use newer technology on that one, a bigger budget, or did everybody just get smarter in the studio by that time?"I always just figured that they discovered that (1) the aural exciter doesn't need to be used all the time, and (2) hey, the bass and treble knobs can actually be adjusted - no need to keep the one on 0 and the other on 10 permanently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I think Play On was released as a single. I could be wrong. (???) I know Overnight Sensation and Party's Over were singles off of Starting Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 To the best of my knowledge Overnight Sensation (Hit Record) and Party's Over were both released before the breakup... and I think "Cruisin' Music" was backed with an older tune after the band split... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 The two singles released from Starting Over were:"Overnight Sensation (Hit Record)" / "Hands On You""Cruisin' Music" / "Party's Over"Incredibly, "Play On" was not released as a single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 One of the 3 wishes I would give my Genie In A Bottle would be to go back in time and have Bernie be the manager/producer of the Raspberries. Or, an executive at Capitol Records?..."Got Raspberries?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Sounds like a great name for an album--"Got Raspberries?" I love it.Bernie as manager/producer of Raspberries is such an awesome thought! WOW! Things would have been done right for sure!Now, go build that time machine! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherberries Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Tony, I think you have something there with "got Raspberries?" I like it! That's a great idea for a bumper sticker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angloberry Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Wonderful album. The single they should have released from it though is "All Through The Night". That song still kicks a**e! IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinberries Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Angloberry said: "All Through The Night". That song still kicks a**e! IMHO isnt that the truth? i dont think i heard them play this one at the reunion shows i saw, but ive always thought this song rips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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