Robin23 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Why the heck do these people continue to act as if Celine Dion wrote All By Myself? Just once I'd like to see someone give Eric credit for this song. How do I get this done? It isn't fair! Eric's version is so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Amen to that. I never liked Celine's version of All By Myself and I cringe whenever I hear someone try to copy it. Plus, if you're going to sing a song, get the lyrics right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelina Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Booyah Ann. You are 100% correct. leona lewis (UK's "X Factor") sang it well....but this American Idol girl was not up to the song!.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I usually like Simon's biting commentary --- entertaining. But he described "ABM" as "...THE ultimate diva song" (or something to that effect). That just doesn't seem right. It's a song that divas can sing, but... it's really the ultimate rock ballad, I would say.... Maybe Simon should go to the next 'berries concert? And yeah, Asia'h (sp?) sure butchered the opening verse, didn't she? "When I was young, I never mumble mumble alone..." Anybody catch what she was singing? Maybe she was trying to work in "type a text message" instead of "dial the telephone"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin23 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Also...I was hoping that since the theme was 70's music...they would actually remember that Eric sang it in that decade. Celine's version came out in the 90's. What is Simon's e-mail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kiwi Connection Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like the Celine Dion version of All By Myself.Just as an aside they played Hungry Eyes on our local radio yesterday and said Eric CLAPTON sang it!!!!Unfortunately I was in my car and couldn't ring the station to put them right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Davie Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Aside from the odd lyric, I think she did a 'decent' job on trying out new phrasings and melody lines. I don't know how much her week long sickness contibuted to her being slightly off with her intonation (ie. "pitchy") but I actually liked what she did with it.And I agree - it's a classic Eric Carmen song...always and forever. Same goes for 'Without You' from Badfinger - it's not a Mariah song.Simon claims to be so smart about music. He admitted that he had never heard of 'Magic Man'. Simon - please keep those stupid 'diva' comments to yourself, and give some credit where it's due!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Eric, does anyone notify you before an Idol contestant sings "ABM"? (This may have come up before, but I don't remember seeing it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubbiefanMike Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I like Celine Dion's version... she happened to make it famous in another decade for another generation of fans... but we all know who wrote it... ABM IS the Ultimate Diva song but it is also the Ultimate pop song Sung By EC. It must make Eric proud to see his song performed on a current show. When they start doing 1980's which Eric Song will they do... Almost Paradise, Hungry Eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfc1 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Mr. Tony knows his stuff: On his radio show today, Tony Kornheiser, a big Idol fan, said several times that ABM is not a diva song but an "Eric Carmen song." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggsherby Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 My sources tell me they are going to have a whole show dedicated to Eric and Raspberries music with Eric as a guest judge.... ....don't we all wish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 If that were the case HP then I'd probably bother to watch the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherberries Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I got on here just to comment on this. I was able to make out what Asia was saying, but it didn't make much sense, so I don't remember what it was! Also, I thought the same thing you did Robin, about the songs being from the 70's and Dion's version being from the 90's! It made no sense! Also, I brought up the subject of Eric being on the show last year. I think it would be fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlesteve Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ABM Eric vs Divas. 2 different songs Eric's original has depth, emotion, pain, etc.. Divas are like posers at the gym, far more interested in showing off their vocal chops then singing the story.. if that was all that mattered why aren't people buying more opera? Eric takes you to that 4th gin and tonic alone on a friday night reminiscing and makes you feel like you're there.. the divas just want to brag about their 4 octave range and could care less about the composers story.. Erics voice is THE storyEither way... ka-ching.. way to go Eric, not many composers can say they wrote a standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 It's 70's night! The song went to #2 on the Billboard Charts in 1976. Written and performed ny ERIC CARMEN!!!!! So WHY are they talking about Celine and Divas instead of Eric? This drives me insane.P.S. Celine's version topped out at #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin23 Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can we contact these idiots and get the record straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellie Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 I'm a little confused. On Thursday night's American Idol, did someone actually hear Celine Dion's name mentioned, or was it Simon calling "All By Myself" the ultimate diva song that makes you think he's inferring that Celine wrote it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin23 Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yes, Celine Dion's name was mentioned after one of the female singers sang ABM. It was a 70's theme so I was sure that they would give Eric credit for writing and singing the song. Randy did mention Celine's name when he commented on the performance. Eric's name never came up. It's not right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 I actually think everyone is making a bigger deal out of this than it is. Eric wrote the song. He gets paid when somebody sings it. That's kind of the singer/songwriter agreement in a nutshell. Fact is, female singers sing "All By Myself" because Celine Dion had a big hit with it and David Foster's soaring arrangement make it a song to show off with if you have the goods. I don't have any problem with them referring to Celine's version when a female contestant sings it. That's the version they're singing. It is exactly the same thing as when somebody sings something like "Jailhouse Rock," for instance. I don't think a single person wouldn't think Elvis Presley. Those in the know, of course, would remember Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller were the composers. But on a show like "American Idol," they would never mention the song-writing team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellie Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 I agree with you Bernie. I think it's great that Asia'h had the good taste to choose "All By Myself" to sing. AI obviously recognized it as an '70's hit, or it would not have even been on the list of songs for her to choose from. Eric has written a song that will prove to be timeless for every generation. I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up at the top of the charts every 20 years or so, and each new generation is going to associate it with the new artist. Eric's name will still be on the label as the person who wrote it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 The difference is that Eric not only composed it but made a #2 hit of it. The whole reason it was available for 70's night was because Eric had a big hit with it in the 70's. I have nothing against Celine's version of the song, and am happy that it introduced the song to a new generation, but how about giving the original artist some credit. I wonder how many people watching were scratching their heads, confused as to why a Celine Dion song was being sung on 70's night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvthemraspberries Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Craig Benfer said: ">It's 70's night! The song went to #2 on the Billboard Charts in 1976. Written and performed ny ERIC CARMEN!!!!! So WHY are they talking about Celine and Divas instead of Eric? This drives me insane. P.S. Celine's version topped out at #4 Good question!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvthemraspberries Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Raspbernie said: I actually think everyone is making a bigger deal out of this than it is. Eric wrote the song. He gets paid when somebody sings it. That's kind of the singer/songwriter agreement in a nutshell. Fact is, female singers sing "All By Myself" because Celine Dion had a big hit with it and David Foster's soaring arrangement make it a song to show off with if you have the goods. I don't have any problem with them referring to Celine's version when a female contestant sings it. That's the version they're singing. It is exactly the same thing as when somebody sings something like "Jailhouse Rock," for instance. I don't think a single person wouldn't think Elvis Presley. Those in the know, of course, would remember Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller were the composers. But on a show like "American Idol," they would never mention the song-writing team. I see your point, Bernie...the only thing that truly *puzzles* me, is it was actually "70's" night on AI...Celine didn't record the song in the 70's...lol! Oh well. It was still awesome to hear it getting airplay on the show, that much I'll say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlesteve Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Well said Bernie... Without You is destined to be Mariah Carey's "song" and no one knows about Harry Nillson, let alone Badfinger. (I Will Always Love You, same thing all remember Whitney, not Dolly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Does anyone have the scoop on when Simon & co will have the songs of EC and the Raspberries featured? Maybe have EC as a guest judge like other songwriters... would be great to have a mix of the group's hits and EC solo numbers on a program of Idol. If they are featured, usually the week after the show, the CDs and downloads will increase dramatically - would be good for the guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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