Beep Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Maybe we should start a new topic regarding Eric's possible (hopeful!) Christmas compilation, and discuss the following (time's a wastin', folks!):1) Should he do it?2) Should he join up with Mannheim Steamroller for this hypothetical project? (YESSSSSSSSS please!)3) Should he also have a female vocalist join in?3a) If so -- who?4) Songs/cuts -- suggestions for the masterpiece!5) Leave room for at least one, preferably two, songs for Eric and Chip to provide original material!Whatta ya think??(I would LOVE to hear the "Carol of the Bells!" with a female singing counterpoint. Lovely! ::::sigh:::: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 Julie has suggested "O Holy Night," which I think would be awesome for him to record as well! I also like:- Greensleeves- Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas- CAROL OF THE BELLS!- Merry Christmas Darling!Join in, everybody, please?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Beep--I think every decent Christmas song has been recorded to death. I hope Eric is saving his energy and focus for a release of his own music. Then it will be Christmas all year long. I think Tony volunteered to record "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" if you're interested, though;} Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy whitefield Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 I think eric should write his own songs about christmas....title suggestions:Brokenhearted christmasTake me all the way this christmasI can remember snowy skies in your eyes...ect....ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Oh no! The wait for new music just got longer if we're now going to wait for a Christmas album of new music!!!! MARVIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Amy Grant has some good original and traditional mix Christmas CDs. Just listen to those. Marvin and Kirk are right. Even about "Grandma..." Eric should concentrate on a regular CD release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Beep--I think every decent Christmas song has been recorded to death. I hope Eric is saving his energy and focus for a release of his own music. Then it will be Christmas all year long. I think Tony volunteered to record "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" if you're interested, though;} Kirk. Hi Kirk! Every decent Christmas song may well have been recorded to death, but by vocalists who sing like death! I would like for him to write his own Christmas cuts as well. Eric could sing the "over-recorded" songs as they SHOULD be sung, plus I think that a project such as this could get those creative juices flowing! (Reading good short stories and poems inspire me to sit down and strive for that "masterpiece" that I believe all of us have inside us.)Hmmmmm -- Grandma?? No, THAT one HAS been done to death. "Tony Got Run Over By a Reindeer" might be good. . . . . **g** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Now guys -- I know you're dyin' for new EC material, but as I said, a Christmas project may start "unblocking" him for other masterpieces. For most people, creativity comes in spurts. Light the match, tickle the wick, and let the candle burn, baby, burn! (And if ANY of you make something nasty out of ANY of that, I will FLOG you!!) Anyway -- the way I see the Christmas/holiday project is WITH Mannheim Steamroller. Any vocalist would be a candidate for a lobotomy if s/he turned down an opportunity to record with Mannheim Steamroller!! (IMHO, of course!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Even if you are diametrically OPPOSED to the EC Christmas effort, you could still play along! Awww, come on, have some fun! Play "pretend!" (My Swedish grandfather sang me some Swedish Christmas songs [when I was little] that were hilarious in English!) I know what songs that *I* think EC could really breathe life into; I am curious about your opinions on the same subject. Please play?? If you won't play, I'm taking my soccer ball and going home! Or else, I'll hold my breath 'til I turn blue! **g** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Beep, I don't think I'm ready for "I Wanna Hear It(Ho Ho Ho) From Your Lips" yet. But you mentionedNanci Griffith. My husband and I have long been afan because we've been intrigued by the music she's written. I see her on a totally different plane than Eric. She's so down-to-earth, countrylike and earthy, concrete and robust, whereas his music is so un-earthbound--so emotional but ethereal and abstract, more intellectual etc. And their voices are so different, I can't imagine them blending. I met her once after a concert, and she was very nice. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Beep, I don't think I'm ready for "I Wanna Hear It(Ho Ho Ho) From Your Lips" yet. But you mentionedNanci Griffith. My husband and I have long been afan because we've been intrigued by the music she's written. I see her on a totally different plane than Eric. She's so down-to-earth, countrylike and earthy, concrete and robust, whereas his music is so un-earthbound--so emotional but ethereal and abstract, more intellectual etc. And their voices are so different, I can't imagine them blending. I met her once after a concert, and she was very nice. --Darlene I wouldn't want to hear Eric singing goofball Christmas songs, but the more ethereal stuff. Mannheim Steamroller can transform every song they perform, and they generally do. I get goosebumps from them! Nanci Griffith is, indeed, on a different plane from EC, which is why I think they would make an interesting duo -- at least, to "sample!" I have heard some duets by people that I never IMAGINED would mix well, but they did! I'm surprised that you consider Nanci's material to be non-intellectual, though. She uses a lot of symbolism in her work, and while she doesn't write tributes to F. Scott Fitzgerald or even Coretta Scott King, she is highly intelligent. (I definitely wouldn't label her "country-like" -- she presents a "modern folk" feel at times, but she's not twangy country.) When she was first starting out here, she recorded a song that a friend of Keith's and mine wrote. The video was full of depth and symbolism, and many of the ideas were hers. (Roger Brown, the songwriter, was also in the video. Keith and I were there, giving him moral support! **g**) Songs can be down-to-earth and still be "deep," don't you think?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Did I just dream that Eric is Jewish?? Did I read this somewhere??? If that is indeed the case, I'm thinkin' a Christmas album is a rather remote possibility.....--Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Did I just dream that Eric is Jewish?? Did I read this somewhere??? If that is indeed the case, I'm thinkin' a Christmas album is a rather remote possibility.....--Julie When I first mentioned the idea, I wrote Christmas/holiday CD -- on the chance that he might be a practicing Jew. I also know many Messianic Jews, and have been to their services. (They're fun!) So he could be among them?! Who knows, anymore? It was a fun suggestion that I thought we could have fun with. I thought people here had imagination and liked to think along creative lines, even if the subject wasn't one that would actually take form? Maybe I was thinking of another group of people?Tony, I HAVE Amy Grant's Christmas CDs. And GRPs Holiday collection. And Mannheim Steamroller's Holiday CDs. And even Bob Rivers Corp CDs. I am not lacking in Christmas/holiday music. This was just a fun project that I thought we could toss around and play "co-producers" for a while. Sounded like an interesting challenge. I mean, someone else started a topic about people on the board writing EC's lyrics, and nearly everyone jumped on board and took a stab at it. Just for fun. This was merely another fun challenge.Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Hey Beep, I don't think anyone is meaning to be nasty about the Christmas album. Just the usual bantering around here. I think we're all just a bunch of Eric-addicts who are in desperate need of a "hit" (pun intended). I like the idea of a Christmas album. (Heck, I'm the one that said I'd buy a CD of him singin' names out of the NYC Phone Book!). It's probably more likely that he'd record a children's album at this point?? That would be rather interesting. Eddie Rabbitt did it. (I haven't heard Eddie's, but I've seen it).So anyway, don't get discouraged by any of us, Beep. The bantering and conflicting opinions are what keep the board alive and interesting. When things get too worked up, Darlene serves us all a big frosty glass of lemonade and everything is great again!--Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliaD Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 yes, Eric is Jewish, and tho there's no law against it, from what someone who actually knows him told me a few years ago, I doubt he'd be doing a Christmas album... but Gary Puckett's is superb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy whitefield Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 There is probably plenty of swedish christmas songs that he could cover...Jul jul strÂlande jul among others.....Agnetha fâ€ltskog from abba did one in swedish...in 81.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 yes, Eric is Jewish, and tho there's no law against it, from what someone who actually knows him told me a few years ago, I doubt he'd be doing a Christmas album... but Gary Puckett's is superb I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing, BUT! Children tend to change everything. EC may surprise us all. "It just goes to show -- it's always something!" Oh! And Jimmy -- the Swedish Christmas songs that my grandfather sang to us were comedic. (Such as, "I Yust [sic] Go Nuts at Christmas.") I come from a small Swedish farming community in Illinois (Galva, with the sister city of Gavle, Sweden). (I don't have the Swedish typing characters set up -- sorry!) Galva is closerthanthis to Bishop Hill, Illinois, which is a historical Swedish settlement. Had my grandfather not changed his name at Ellis Island, my maiden name would have been "Persson." "Persson" was "too common." Go figure!! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beep Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 P.S. Off-topic (sorry!!), but although I don't "collect" too many things, one thing I DO collect is Dala horses. My first came from Bishop Hill, then I got a three-piece set of "baby" Dalas in varying colors from Sweden. Then on to eBay! I love them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy whitefield Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 If i say like this...there are plenty of "dala hâ€star" to by cheap here in sweden.....but hardly anything by eric carmen...urgh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Beep, I didn't mean to give the impression that I think Nanci's songs are "unintellectual." They'resurely not. They just have a different feel thanEric's intellectually. She is very intelligent, and her work does have a lot of symbolism. She's also very involved in the Irish issues and that whole situation abounds in her songs. She is definitely modern folk, but the "countryness" I referred to is something I connect to the sound ofher voice (Texas accent?) rather than the feel of her songs. Songs like "Spin on a Red Brick Floor," "Roseville Fair," and "Gulf Coast Highway," (which always makes me cry and is my absolute favorite, although I call it "Bluebonnet Spring), sound "country" to me. I truly love Nanci, and so does my husband. It must have been a gas to work with her and support her in her work. Lucky you! Lucky HER for your being there!All I know about Eric being Jewish is that somewhere in the press archives it stated that Eric married his first wife in a Temple, and I thought I've seen him wearing a "mezuzah" (not sure of the spelling) sometimes. Not for that reason, but I can't imagine him doing a Christmas or Hanukkah album... --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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