Bob Allen Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Al Gore - a very dangerous man. That is, if anyone in their right mind took him seriously. Plus, he's all bloated and crazy lookin'-- a complete and utter disaster in every possible way. (His man-boobs make Bea Arthur look like a washboard...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Nobody puts my Bea as a washboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Tony, Bob will have to agree with you on Al Gore. If he was president during 9/11, he would have invited the Al Queda over to the White House for a spot of tea. Never had been a fan of Gore's one bit. Especially with wanting to censor a whole bunch of recordings.........despite the fact he is a so-called "Democrat" this stance smacks of the religious right....even Bush didn't take any potshots at musicians the way Al and Tipper did.At the same time, Gore took a blind eye toward the film industry. Notice he didn't condemn Hollywood for films having too much sex and profanity......quite the hypocrite for looking the other way when it came to Hollywood, but slamming rockers at the same time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Allen Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Tony - She's MINE, I tell ya...all MINE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Geez, I feel like I'm surrounded by Republicans here! I like Al Gore. I have a feeling a lot of you who just bashed him voted against him in 2000, so you've never been "fans." But your posts seem a bit exaggerated. I guess when your man (GWB) is under constant criticism (some of it unfair, some of it valid), it helps to lash out at someone like Gore. Takes the pressure off. I saw the reports on Gore's Saudi speech, and some editorials rip him to shreds (and get even me thinking, "Why in the hell did you have to make that speech, Al?"). But some defend him. The gist of his speech, after all, was that the Middle East can play a role in tolerance in the future: "The 21st century has to be a century of renewal, and our ability to overcome cycles of disrespect and violence is the key to making it a century of renewal." If you base your opinion on editorials like one that Investors.com posted, I can see how you'd wanna deport Gore. But as always, consider the "spin" in the "news source" you're reading. I suppose Big Al's comments about Arabs being mistreated after 9/11 might have been better voiced less publicly, and in the U.S. rather than in oil land. At the same time, I don't doubt what he said is true. It just overshadowed his real point (about tolerance). PS: A couple of reports said Gore is still POed over the 2000 election, when he lost by 537 votes while tens of thousands of Gore votes in Florida were discounted. But heck, I can't imagine anyone saying, "Damn, I wish I were president on 9/11!" Well, that's enough politics for me this week. I get tired of it after a while. I need to go listen to Starting Over. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Al Gore -- the self proclaimer of "inventing the internet" -- give him the boot. Along with him toss Palmiero, Sosa, McGuire, Bonds and all of the other steroid abusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmik Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 What an ugly thread. Full of ugly thoughts from people who call themselves Americans. They should feel ashamed. I feel ashamed for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 I know, I know Cozmik...In your little cosmic PC world, we should "tolerate" everything and everybody's opinion, let people do what they want if it feels good, or furthers their agenda...Even if they say and do things that embolden our radical Muslim brothers to teach their young to keep strapping on bombs and walk into crowded markets and restaurants and murder civilians. That's what Al Gore did.This big fat overbloated American Government is slowly rotting at the core because of greed, apathy, and tolerance of bad behavior...HOWEVER, We are on the RIGHT SIDE OF GOOD in the War on Terror, and anybody who actively seeks out to accentuate every negative claim against our side, needs to be bitch-slapped back to reality! We are talking about life and death here, not politics and sour grapes. War is dirty, mistakes are made, and Bush should be booted from office for the way his boys have made too many...But you can never win a war trying to fight it clean and politically correct, because the fanatical enemy will advance on every hesitation, self-doubt and PR nightmare.So be ashamed, Cozmik, stick your head back in the sand or watch the curling finals at the Olympics. Let the rest of us identify the problems and find solutions to the mounting world crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmik Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm not talking about war or being PC.I'm saying that iInsulting fellow Americans and calling for their deportation because they're in a different political party is treasonous and un-American.I'm not putting my head in the sand. On the contrary I'm standing up to disgusting fools who want me deported because I'm a liberal. How utterly reprehensible. I don't wish the same on you because your opinions are different. But silly me, I still believe being American means more than party politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I tend more toward the positive and that's why I started the "Importation" thread.But this thread has been a good vehicle for discussion and there's been some fun thrown in. We don't have to accept as "good" every political position, point of view etc that is out there. On the contrary when you, I or anybody witness behavior or actions that we think are destructive to our community/world it is not only ok, but really our responsiblity to at least speak out against it..and/or take action when appropriate. Or debate the issue (like on this site) and maybe learn something from those that disagree with you and adjust your point of view.I find Al Gore despicable....not because he's liberal or a Democrat...but because of Al Gore. There are many great liberals and Democrats whom I've previously applauded on this site. It's intellectually ridiculous to deduce from the previous postings on this thread that the posters want liberals deported because they're liberals.Keep the discussions coming Tony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Cozmik, you can stay... For the record, I would deport Bush as well, but I think he's not smart enough to know his overall plan is costing too much in lives and money, and is trying to do good for the world, without hurting the profits of his cronies...Hey, War business is Big business too!The difference is that Gore, Carter, Ramsey, Jackson don't care if the enemy terrorists benefit from their words and actions, because they want a revolution in their own country as well...One big socialist world order, where they are in high power places and are not affected by the drastic change of the new theoretical world revolution, where America loses most of it's edge in power so that everybody but a few, can live in harmonic poverty and limited but available healthcare... Yippie Latti Freakin' Da! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hey President Bush,I'm a fan.Don't let the incessent superfluous attacks against you get you down. It's the times we live in. Heck, even Barry Manilow isn't entirely safe on fellow balladeer Eric Carmen's message forum! Tell Condoleeza I said hi. And yes Mr. President, I am keeping my promise to keep my distance from her. You were probably correct to worry that contact with me might be the only thing that could tempt her away from her job. And the United States cannot afford that.Your Humble Servant, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMY TUNES Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nothing quite like a Reading from the Book of James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Ah, Sweet Baby James. --D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Heck, even Barry Manilow isn't entirely safe on fellow balladeer Eric Carmen's message forum! DUH... Barry Manilow sucks and Eric Carmen doesn't... with maybe 3 really good songs and ten tons of dreck to his name, Manilow is the anti-christ... Eric Carmen fromed the Raspberries which immediately gives him cred on the level of Big Star, Badfinger, Flamin' Groovies... yes his solo stuff had ballads, and his '80s material is very questionable, but I would never align him with Barry, mainly because he was cooler and ISN'T such a cornball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 "Big Star, Badfinger, Flamin' Groovies..." - Careful there....you're getting into "elitist" musical territory, as far as Mr. Cartmill's concerned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Cozmik - While I greatly sympathize with you, it's best not to take this thread too seriously....my guess is the same folks who are espousing a "My country and my President - right or wrong" now, took a different view of Wild Bill Clinton's transgressions in the 90's....but I could be wrong.This is coming from one who's voted in 9 Presidential elections - 5 times for the Democrat and 4 for the Republican (the difference being a coin toss in a voting booth one election, when both candidates disgusted me)...as opposed to being either a backwoods hillbilly trogglodyte (Dems' view of Republicans) or a bleeding heart abortionist who encourages gay marriages (Republicans' view of Democrats). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Allen Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I say we deport 'Cozmik' -- just 'cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Deport Bea Arthur. Not that she's done anything bad. But the further away she is from Bob Allen, The less likely Bob is to do something CRAZY IN LOVE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Pierson, Barry would not make the cut if an adolescent sense of the work "cool" is used as the standard by which to judge him.But Barry is VERY cool, assuming a deeper, more mature sense of the work "cool" is invoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 the more mature sense of cool is what Eric excells in... Barry, never gets beyond mere nice and ersatz sophisticated adult pop (i.e. he wishes he could be the male version of Dione Warwick or Dusty Springfield, but never has gotten close to such greatness: stuff that transcends basic pop sensibilites and ordinary niceness) nothing really wrong with being corny, if that's what you are, by the way.... Barry's been great at it forever... cool is not part of his makeup, and that actually makes him more endearing to those who appreciate him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Deport the idiot judge in New Hampshire who gave the guy who raped the little girl a sentence of only 30 days in prison and justified his action by saying, "I don't believe in punishment." This is a travesty of justice and it makes me wonder whether the judge is afraid of the defendant or whether the defendant knows something unsavory about the judge and threatened to make it known. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Allen Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 'cool is not part of his makeup'But foundation and eyeliner certainly seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneG Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Darlene!!! You're hitting close to home! Granted, NH has few rules, but that souless judge is in VT!!! (which is often in a world of its own). The sentence was 60 days - but what makes this ruling more unpalatable is that the offense was repeated over several years; it was not a one time event. Yet, he's given a sentence and will undergo sex-treatment. If he doesn't complete the treatment after his sentence, he may receive a life sentence. I don't even want to consider who determines and how it is determined that he "completes" the treatment. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Wow! This has turned into an electric thread....Darlene, I agree with your deportation post. It's a travesty, really.Anne, did you ever notice that outside of New England, people tend to group NH and VT together? I lived in NH for a while, so I could feel the difference. You have to be there to know.... James: I usually agree with you, but I knew you'd get called on this line: "Heck, even Barry Manilow isn't entirely safe on fellow balladeer Eric Carmen's message forum!" Pierson's posts took care of it. I'd add that, simply speaking, calling EC a balladeer short-changes him. And to say "fellow balladeer" plunks him right down there right next to Barry when they're in different leagues. I bet even EC had to "ugh" when he read that one! :-)Tony & The Anti-Goreans: Geez, I guess my defense of Al Gore was effective --- you swept it aside like so many pebbles on a sidewalk. Oh well... I still think your reaction to his speech is an overreaction, knee-jerk-style. The following "classic Cartmill" passage is more of the same: "The difference is that Gore, Carter, Ramsey, Jackson don't care if the enemy terrorists benefit from their words and actions, because they want a revolution in their own country as well... One big socialist world order, where they are in high power places and are not affected by the drastic change of the new theoretical world revolution, where America loses most of its edge in power so that everybody but a few, can live in harmonic poverty and limited but available healthcare..." But I've gotta say... I enjoyed it! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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