JuliaD Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 phil spector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsey Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I just heard about Phil Spector and I am in shock. I really hate to see our American icons fall from grace like this. Spector is truly a legend in pop music. What a tragedy. My only hope is that it is not what it seems to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I'm not surprised. I've heard rumors that Phil has been a strange guy since the 60's. There are alot of musical legends who are/were freaks with their personal lives. Just like that certain homosexual pedophile, face and body self-mutilating musical genius freak who claims that "Billie Jean" is not his lover. When he grabs his crotch, I shudder to guess what he is thinking about... Most likely, a 13-year old Michauly Culkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliaD Posted February 4, 2003 Author Share Posted February 4, 2003 Today just isn't Phil's day beatles spector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaroxx Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 If he is guilty then to heck with him. I hope he is not guilty. However, someone killed that young lady! Lets hope justice prevails!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliaD Posted February 4, 2003 Author Share Posted February 4, 2003 Jay Leno is so bad... last night he talked about Groundhog Day... he said "Punxatawney Phil Spector came out of his den, saw his shadow, and shot somebody!", then he said they wouldn't let him post bail cuz he's a risk, "he do run run run, he do run run"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I think what he did for the "Let It Be" album was great. I can't believe that article is trashing his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I was shocked when I heard Ronnie Spector on television saying she had to sue Phil to get any money for her work with the Ronettes! Now this.We can only hope that if he wasn't there much and there were lights on at night, maybe this lady was staying there and someone else shot her, but if the police have arrested him on suspicion...it doesn't look good. Very very sad. As for Michael Jackson and Robert Blake, both very talented individuals, no one witnessed their alleged crimes, but it takes a really dark soul to commit either one.At first, I hated to believe O.J. killed his wife and friend also. It's difficult for me to accept that world class talents are capable of such terrible things, but to be so talented, one must have a super sensitive nature, and is, I guess, more sensitive to one's own inner demons as well.One of my favorite actors is Robert Downey, Jr. So sensitive, so talented. I'm glad he seems to be cleaning up his act. It's very sad that not everyone can overcome these problems. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsey Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Darlene: I agree with you on Robert Downey Jr. He is an incredible actor! I, too, hope he stays clean. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Downey Jr. is talented, but I think he mumbled too much when he was on Alley McBeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Tony, that was his audition for "Starting Over" Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I really don't think Phil Spector intended to kill the victim, but he probably did do it...in the past he has had guns in the recording studioand have threatened artists -- including Leonard Cohen, members of the Ramones, and John Lennon...My guess is that was one of those kind of things that Spector was known for doing, only this went awry.Sad, to say the least. But really surprised, knowing the number of these incidents Spector has had, that this didn't happen previously to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 I read today that in a recent phone interview that Spector said he has taken schizophrenia medication. So the question is, Does Phil hear voices in his head, or a "Wall of Voices" in his head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosskratz Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Phil Spector is an oddball. When he was inducted into the Hall Of Fame, he made dispariging remarks about Bruce Springstein, The Beatles and even mentioned Eric Carmen "stealing" his wall of sound. What the moron didn't say, was that these artists applied his technique, which was not patented as have artists from the sixties to today. This is not the first time he has been in trouble, and if you read his history, this is not at all unusual for him. He was a great producer, but being a great producer does not put you above the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 I read where Phil says "he has had a tough time" and is "bi-polar" -- the latest excuse to defend one when doing something off the wall. This guy deserves everything he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 This also has a bit of deja vu with another record producer, Joe Meek. In England, Meek's production techniques were well-renowned at the same time as Spector's, having produced a similar number of hits in the UK, mostly in the late 50s/early 60s pre-British Invasion era.Whereas Spector achieved his "wall of sound" using echo/reverb, Meek's sound came from using compression and limiting. Sadly, like Spector, Meek had similar types of disorders. In 1967 he shot a woman to death before turning the gun on himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I think producers get to much credit when something is good and to much blame when something is bad.Who could'nt produce the Beatles,or Eric Carmen or Billy Joel.Great songs make great albums.As a producer all's you need to have is enough sense to stay out of the artists way.I really hate it when I see someone who throws away great opportunity.Spector is an idiot.Here's a guy that has it all and he just has to throw it away.More than likely MR.SHAPIRO will get him off just like O.J. got off.Idon't have 1 second on my time to waste on someone like Spector who has wasted his life and the life of a young lady.sorry for he ramble but this guy ticks me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Sorry I gotta disagree with Stut5 about producers getting too much credit. Using George Martin as an example, in my opinion, if there ever was a 'Fifth Beatle', it was George Martin. He had the incredible ears to know what sounded good, what the songs required, and he definitely had the respect of John, Paul, George, Ringo and Brian Epstein. I would say the same about Phil Ramone (Billy Joel's producer) and Jimmy Ienner. As a producer Phil Spector had some incredible ideas, but there's no denying his life has been way out of balance for many years. I can only hope that his chief student, Brian Wilson is not affected by this horrible turn of events.MARVIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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