Danny S. Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I cannot believe this...I was just watching the news, and in Indiana, you are no longer permitted to smile for your drivers licence photo,because of New "face recognition software". No glasses, scarfs,or smiles permitted.According to the report, all States will have to comply with this new Federal law...UNBELIEVABLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Danny...please. You know me better than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollies65 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 And I said "No grandma...no more potatos!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kiwi Connection Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Danny, it's the same here in NZ. Last time I had to get my license renewed, I was told to take my glasses off for the photo, even though I wear them all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 So if anyone has plans to commit a crime, be sure to wear your glasses. They'll never recognize you. --D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Who cares? I mean honestly, has anyone had a GOOD license picture taken of them, smile or no smile? Seriously, here in Mass. they always made you wear the glasses for the photo in case you were pulled over. If you need them and you are not wearing them that's one more thing they could bust you for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelina Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Personally...I wish I could use my avatar as my license photo.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT from Mo Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopell Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I don't know if I like the sound of "face recognition software". But I love John's idea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny S. Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 I saw that story last night and said to myself"what's next"? Talk about more Government waste...."face recognition software" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopell Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 How is it to be used? Why would it be used? Is it some kind of data base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopell Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I guess that was a stupid question--what, besides a database, would it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Originally posted by boopell: How is it to be used? Why would it be used? Is it some kind of data base? A woman named Laura Garza is missing in NY. A registered sex offender has been charged with her murder. How did the police first put the two together? 'Investigators zeroed in on Mele after high-tech surveillance cameras at Marquee (club) captured the pair dancing, flirting and talking for about 45 minutes, giving cops their first real clue to her whereabouts.'Ask this missing woman's family what they think about "face recognition software". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopell Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I know it's been a very useful tool in solving crimes and I'm sure the family is grateful--I would be.I wasn't aware that surveillance cameras were part of it and I can't figure out how it works on a driver's license. I admit I'm technologically challenged! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny S. Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 I can see that.It just seemed to be a bit harsh when it was broadcasted.It tends to make one feel "guilty until proven innocent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspyrock Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 "We are the Borg! Resistance is futile. ... Your characteristics will ............ " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneG Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think the 'no smile' rules for passports went into effect several years ago as well.Face recognition software/artificial intelligence is pretty amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretender Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It sounds kind of Big Brother-ish to me. If everyone getting a drivers license goes into the data base-and they keep putting surveillance cameras everywhere-they'll be able to track everyone all the time.Why don't they just put a GPS chip in all of our heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 As Kiwi said we have had the "No Smile" for both licenses and Passports for a while now. I guess we are used to it so haven't thought too much about it. You can't get a license without it, and ya can't get a passport without the "bland" face photo.What Kiwi and I did find intrusive when we arrived in L.A. last year was the photographing of our faces AND then finger-printing us. I mean to say... do we look like criminals!!! Seriously though, we do understand the need for security since 911. It doesn't happen when you come to New Zealand... well not yet.It did take a long time to get through immigration into USA last year. Still it won't put us off coming again. That's if we can get through!! Muzza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Originally posted by boopell: I can't figure out how it works on a driver's license. I admit I'm technologically challenged! How does it work?Some facial recognition (software) identifies faces by extracting landmarks, or features, from an image of the subject's face. For example, an algorithm may analyze the relative position, size, and/or shape of the eyes, nose, cheekbones, and jaw. These features are then used to search for other images with matching features. So the police have a video of a suspect. They need a data base to draw from. Where is one place where you can find someone's picture, not to mention their name, address, height, weight, & birthday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspyrock Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 ....... And who's to say that terrorists and criminals won't be smiling when they commit their atrocities??? I suppose some technology is better than nothing, but I dont' have great faith in it, and it is overkill to a degree. Right now I'm just glad I don't have to carry a national ID card or have a chip in my body .... that I know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmichel Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It seems like a strange rule to me...But technology rules our lives these days...This one won't affect me though...I have never smiled or wore my glasses in a drivers license photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopell Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jerry--thanks for the explanation. I just couldn't grasp how a regular photo could be used.I see the positive aspects, but I still have mixed feelings about it--big brother and all.Like Raspyrock pointed out it's better than a chip. The chips are supposedly already in newer passports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ask this missing woman's family what they think about "face recognition software". Ask the hundreds of thousands of law abiding citizens how they feel about their rights being trampled on in the name of "maybe" catching one criminal here and there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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