Billy K. Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Marvin, you are right on the mark about Foreigner. The sound indeed is much like a more progressive Bad Company.....and the timing was certainly perfect for them coming on the scene, when Rodgers and Co. had a bit of a lull......I have to cringe every time I hear "Head Games", knowing what happened during the production of the album. "Head Games" cost about double of what "Double Vision" was to produce.....which shouldn't be that way. There was a lot of wasted studio time, due to not being rehearsed and ready, and too much studio fixing. And mostly drug problems and other kinds of slacking off within the band.As for Van Halen, they are really a tight band, either with Roth, or with Hagar. Both also add their unique style and sense of humor. Although Hagar can play an instrument(guitar), unlike Roth, there is still something missing with Van Hagar.......and that is the songwriting..just isn't as good, and I can't pinpoint why.Hagar is definitely capable(actually enjoy his Montrose and solo stuff), and so are the other band members.......but I enjoy Roth-era stuff better, for that reason.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I like "Double Vision" and "Urgent" of their hits."Just Between You And Me" from Lou Gramm solo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 When I saw Foreigner many moons ago at the Mtl Forum, their sax player was Mark Rivera - the same Mark Rivera who played sax and keys during Eric's stint with Ringo's All-Starr Band. 6 Degrees of EC?Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannoman Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Marv. Did Mark also play sax and tour with Billy Joel? When I saw Foreigner in Scotland, Billy Joe's sax player was in the band. He had great stage presence.Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Mannoman, Mark Rivera replaced Richie Cannata as sax player for Billy Joel a number of years ago..in fact, sometime in the 80s.Mick Jones of Foreigner also was involved in Joel's "Storm Front" album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Mark is a fine multi-instrument musician and great stage performer. This guy always has an A-list touring gig. He must be able to pick and choose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Yes I saw Mark with Billy Joel as well in the early 1980's. He had great stage presence with BJ, but I always thought he looked a bit dorky with Foreigner. Still, he nailed that Junior Walker "Urgent" sax solo.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Bernie and Kathy, based on the live cuts I heard of the current Foreigner lineup on "Rockline" a few months back, I think you're in for a pleasant surprise.New singer Kelly Hansen probably does Lou Gramm better than Lou Gramm does these days.The live tracks sounded really good. And since Jason Bonham's in the band, they've been doing "Misty Mountain Hop" and a bit of "Whole Lotta Love."Could be a good show. Hope so!Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well, if nothing else, you'll get to check out the AC HoB!--H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 "Misty Mountain Top" and "Whole Lotta Love"??? Yikes!! and Ugh!! I don't believe that those songs would have been in the set list if Mick Jones was still involved.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Marv, Mick Jones is involved, driving the band on lead guitar... Did you mean to say "if Lou Gramm was involved"? If so, probably not...based on interviews I've read and heard, Mick and Lou weren't seeing eye-to-eye on anything.But believe it or not, they do justice to the Zeppelin songs.--Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougjack Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 "Misty Mountain Top" and "Whole Lotta Love"??? Yikes!! and Ugh!! I don't believe that those songs would have been in the set list if Mick Jones was still involved.Marv Are you sure he's not? The Foreigner page seems to indicate that he is. If Mick was gone, there'd be no originals left at all, right? Still, I suspect they want to pay tribute to the Bonham family mainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Mick Jones owns the name Foreigner. If he's there, it's Foreigner. He's the only original member in the current band, although the keyboardist (forget his name) and multi-instrumentalist (sax, etc) Thom Gimbel have been with previous versions of the band.I agree with Dougjack--the Zeppelin songs are a tribute to a family legacy (also, Jason played with Jimmy Page and in a few Zeppelin reunion sets).Also, a good indication that this Foreigner plans to go in a rock direction in the promised new recordings.Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 The keyboardist is Jeff Jacobs. He's also played in Billy Joel's band.H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 My apologies. I didn't realize that Mick was still involved and I didn't read this entire thread. So is he the only one left from the original lineup?Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbecstacy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Yep, Mick's the only original member. Lou was the only other original member involved in Foreigner since the early 1990s when original drummer Dennis Elliot left the band.The current Foreigner is:Mick Jones-lead guitarKelley Hansen-vocalsJeff Pilson-bassJason Bonham-drumsJeff Jacobs-keyboardsThom Gimbel-sax, guitar, etc.H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 The current Foreigner is:Mick Jones-lead guitarKelley Hansen-vocalsJeff Pilson-bassJason Bonham-drumsJeff Jacobs-keyboardsThom Gimbel-sax, guitar, etc.H Looks like a cover band to me...... or tribute.... w/ a special guest of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 My take on Foreigner 2005: So…Mick Jones' guitar *does* sound exactly like Foreigner, but that's about it. Everybody else does a fine job, and the new lead singer sounded close, but not exact, which lead me to keep thinking that I was watching AMERICAN IDOL, with one of the contestants doing a good job singing the tunes. I mean, what's Mick Jones to do?!? He wrote the some massive '70s hits and just wants to keep playing them. I mean, the set list was incredible for anyone who had a radio back then: "Feels Like the First Time," "Cold As Ice," "Long, Long Way From Home," "Hot Blooded," "Double Vision," "Blue Morning, Blue Day," "Dirty White Boy," "Head Games," "Urgent," "Waiting for a Girl Like You," 'Juke Box Hero," "I Want to Know What Love Is" -- I didn't rememberthem having so many hits, but they did, and playing them one after another made you realize how much they ruled radio back then. Still, there was only ONE member of Foreigner on stage. Made me really appreciate how extraordinary this Raspberries reunion is!Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 PS: Mick got himself a pretty amazing rhythm section with Jason Bonham on drums and Jeff Pilson on bass, but to my ear the two seemed to be playing their own licks instead of what's on record. Cool if you're a musician, not cool if your ear is telling you something just doesn't sound right.Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Nivan Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Wow."The Cars" announce a "reunion" tour, then "Foreigner" plays a "reunion" gig at Galt Airport in Gereenwood, IL and steals the entire thread!Thanks for the review, Bernie; I bet it was a kind of "American Idol" experience. I agree, they DID rule the airwaves 79-ish. I even met 'em in a record store and they were pretty nice guys for being stuck in a record store with the likes of me.LOTSO hits; I even liked "I Want to Know What Love Is" the first few times.Last word (?) must go to pierson; "Looks like a cover band to me...... or tribute.... w/ a special guest of course..." "K" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.