Brian Mac Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I was thinking today while driving that paul has never performed "Rocky Racoon" "Martha My Dear" or "I will" live. Must be nice to have so many great songs, you can never do half of them. Marv, I have got to get you a copy of "Return To Pepperland." It's the best thing he never released. I love DNS as well.Lew, I was just thinking in terms of radio airplay and stuff. They just always seem to pick a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 C'mon Brian, send it along!Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I'd like him to do "Leave It", a song that he wrote for his brother's album, back in the 70s. Brother Michael's recording sounds like a Wings single, especially with Linda singing backup vocals.Why this did not become a hit, I don't know. A very fun and catchy song....and a very simple--butdistinctive---sax riff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Mac Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Billy, that whole album is a killer. It's pretty much a Mccartney solo album that nobody knows about. And "Leave it" is the best cut.Marvin, send me your address. If I'm going to burn you a CD, there will be other surprises. Have you ever heard Wally's song about Eric "Yer Stale" for instance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Listened to the new one today for the first time. It's gonna have to grow on me. There are a few things that I'm finding interesting. Driving Rain didn't do a thing for me and it still doesn't. Though I did love the Flaming Pie album on the first listen. I thought I read somewhere that this new one was supposed to come with a DVD on the making of the album. If so, mine does not have it. But like I said before, McCartney doesn't have to prove a thing to anybody, I have nothing but respect for the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 Mike there ARE two versions of the CD available: the regular priced one which is cd-only, and another that is cd+dvd which is double the price of the cd-only one.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Brian, yes, some very good workon the McGear album. Had a copy on cassette a long time ago, but it got stolen. That's on my list of CD reissues to get.Speaking of Mike McGear, it was interesting hearing him talk on the radio here, about a year or so ago. Liverpool was awarded the "Cultural Captal of Europe" for 2008, and the first thing Mike does is call this radio station in Seattle.Talked by phone on-air, for about 10 minutes or so which was amazing. Of course, this is at about 2am our time, due to the time difference. And it happens that I was on my way to work, and listening to this while I was driving. What timing!!hbecstacy, happened to be on my way to work this morning and "Jet" comes on the radio. Just dawned on me that Paul is actually doing the drums! Ya know, he is a pretty good drummer....really like the drumnming on that song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllvnbil Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I stopped buying McCartney albums after 'Flaming Pie". Tired of the disappointment! "Flowers In The Dirt" is probably the last album I liked of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 On further listening, "Fine Line" is still the best song. "Jenny Wren" is a pretty good acoustic ballad and "English Tea" is growing on me. There are a lot of other VERY INTERESTING musical moments sprinkled throughout the CD, but I just find Paul's melancholy melodies too "adult" for me. I am sure all of the four star reviews dig that about the new CD but I simply refuse to grow up and sit around my CD player with a glass of wine, listening quietly as it spins. I'm still listening to the GREAT music I listened to when I was growing up. And I remember playing an album like RAM for the first time or BAND ON THE RUN or VENUS AND MARS and liking each of those IMMEDIATELY. One spin is all it took to fall in love with those LPs. I hate the fact that I have to force myself to listen in the hopes that I'll see the "maturity." Screw the maturity! I want "Junior's Farm!":-)Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew Bundles Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Bernie...Its the same as comparing I Want To Hold Your Hand and A Day In The Life...One is sheer excitement while the other is a discerning listen...Neither is bad...Music is a mind altering or complimenting tool, depending on what emotional plane you are currently persuaded to...Dont fight it...Go with it...Wizard of Oz and Casablanca are the same kind of analogy...Chocolate cake vs. steak...Both are great..."Man cannot live by bread alone, frequently there must be a beverage involved"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Its the same as comparing I Want To Hold Your Hand and A Day In The Life...Not really. "A Day In The Life" is musically accessible. The melody, instrumentation and harmonies may be more complex than "I Want To Hold Your Hand" but the song is an instant YES! on first listen. Some of McCartney's new music, equally complex is a bit too dark and the melodies are not at all hummable IMHO.Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew Bundles Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Oh well,I tried...To me, the whole Sgt. Pepper thing was an acquired taste as opposed to instant gratification...In terms of Eric Carmen,to me, there were very few moments, initially, on BOATS that were as satisfiying as the first solo album, but many, many listens later did I GET IT...Keep listening Bern...At least to the numbers that he is doing live...Guaranteed that the others will seep into your brain and you will BEA(sic) hooked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 bernie,i noticed your word "dark" in your statement..by george your gettin it..i mean,paul never touches his dark side and that in itself has been long overdue in his songs..to john it was very easy for him to do that,therefore i think in a weird way,its refreshing for paul to come to terms w/this..granted,some of the new stuff is skippable,but theres some very good stuff too..also u dont have to drink wine to listen to paul,i bet most are beer drinkers (just a joke!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Chris,The difference between "Dark John" and "Dark Paul" is that "Dark John" was killer and "Dark Paul" is a bore!I mean, you choose: "How Kind of You" or "How Do You Sleep?""Too Much Rain" or "Cold Turkey?""At The Mercy" or "Isolation?"Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 good point bernie,i bow to you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Bowing not required :-) I was actually using the term "dark" initially to describe Paul's uncharacteristic melody-lines and chord progressions on Choas and Creation. Sheesh! Would playing a few more Major chords have killed him?!?Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew Bundles Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Tug of War or I Dont Wanna Be A Soldier, I Dont Wanna Die...Not fair Bern, you took three entries from Paul's new one vs. three of John's best...All in all, Paul's solo albums are much more fuller than John's stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 Well I have now listened to the entire new album about 10x, and I must say (sorry Bernie), that I simply love it. I think it is far better than "Driving Rain", and ranks high among the ones he's put out in the last 15 years ("Flowers", "Flaming", Driving", "Off the Ground" etc.)Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Completely fair, Lew. I was trying to make a point about "Dark Paul" vs. "Dark John." John didn't have any dark numbers on DOUBLE FANTASY or MIND GAMES that I remember. The closest to a dark song on WALLS AND BRIDGES was "Nobody Loves You (When You're Down and Out)" but that's not so dark. The PLASTIC ONO BAND album was virtually ALL dark ('cept perhaps for "Hold On."Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Marvin,No argument from me that it's Paul's best album in the last decade. But "My Brave Face" was hands-down the best song out of all of those efforts.Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Completely agree Bernie. "My Brave Face" is easily one of the best songs in Paul's entire career.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregkevinw Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 bernie, your point is well made. the difference between john and paul i believe is that lennon wrote what he felt and people were in tune with it...i think paul writes w/hit singles in mind...(have not heard the new cd yet). this is why i think paul has the rep of being the "lighter" of the 2 song writers. paul is at his worst when he tries to "do" john....."freedom"...YUK...lennons "dark" or social side came naturally, because that was his interest and it showed....he also had a cutting wit..... you mentioned "nobody loves you"....after singing several times "i'll scratch your back and you scratch mine"... he changes the second line to "you'll knife mine".....that was john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregkevinw Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 my post above sounds like i am knocking paul... i am not... his rock n roll credentials speak for themselves.. and i am a fan. but for my taste, lennon had more substance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew Bundles Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 If Paul had been the one killed, we would be ridiculing John and deifiying Paul...I love them both, but John's solo stuff was never as good as Paul's...He had so many spotty albums and his light moments were as embarrasing as Paul's...Oh Yoko, Only People,One Day At a Time,Angela, Tight A$...If McCartney had written Love or Beautiful Boy, he would be getting hammered by the critics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdude Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 ...but John's solo stuff was never as good as Paul's...He had so many spotty albums and his light moments were as embarrasing as Paul's...Oh Yoko, Only People,One Day At a Time,Angela, Tight A$... Call me nuts (many do), but I rather enjoy "Oh Yoko" and "Only People."Of course, I also number RAM and BACK TO THE EGG as among Paulie's finest recorded moments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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