wimvriezen Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Billy K. you're right. Music fans in Holland are very special, many big artists got their first charthits in Holland, I only mention two names but there are more: Donna Summer and Whitney Houston became successfull in Holland before they were noticed anywhere else in the world. Do I have to say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Wim, Your country can gladly claim all the Disco artists like Summer you want. I DON'T KNOW WHY AMERICA LOOKS FONDLY BACK ON THAT ERA OF MEDIOCRITY! The 60's, Early 70's, Early 80's blew that Disco era away in terms of memorable songs. Even the talented BeeGees turned into a chipmunk falsetto freakshow during that era...So If I hear another open hi-hat drum beat or a short choppy horn section accompanyment...I swear I'm going on a shooting spree...(Now there's an American tradition we can look fondly upon)And if I hear Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" one more time...It's mushroom cloud time, baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 As for over and over songs: Dave Loggin's 1978/9 remake version of his own "Pieces of April" gets me. Perfect vocal (silly lyrics don't bother me), perfect instruments, perfect ending."The Only Love" and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" by the BeeGees."A Little Respect" Erasure (A musical point/counterpoint harmony masterpiece)"Starting Over", "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" and the cover of "Walk Away Renee" by Eric Caramel? Clapton? Carmen?...something like that."Crying in my Sleep" Art Garfunkel (Written by Jimmy Webb)"Cigarette Lighter Love Song" Butch Walker."Living Years" Mike and the Mechanics"The Real Thing" Kenny Loggins (About kids and divorce)"Wild Heart of the Young" Karla Bonoff (First heard it on "The Wonder Years")"I'm Stone In Love With You" The Stylistics (A Department Store Aisle Stopper!)"Love Of The Heart Divine" Chris De Burgh"Love Is All Around Me" Wet Wet Wet (Their version blows away the original 60's one)Has anybody else listened to any of these songs more than a few times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I fundamentally agree that disco won't go down in history as one of the "higher art forms" and I personally don't like it (although there are some tunes I uncontrollably get in to ).But the ironic thing, IMHO, is that out of that same peroid (mid - late 70s) probably came the best music in my lifetime. The following put out great music during that period: -Eagles -Billy Joel -Eric Carmen -Elton John -Fleetwood Mac -Burton Cummings -Bee Gees (Main Course) -Abba -Bruce Springsteen -Jimmy Buffet -Many of the heavier bands were at their zenith: Rush, Foghat, REO, Status Quo, etc. -many more not on the top of my head at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Good point James! Put Disco aside(then step on it, kick it, kick it again, and dump it in the back alley dumpster), and the mid to late 70's had some good non-Disco music. But most of the bands had their best stuff in the 1974-1976 time period. I think of the main "Disco Tsunami" hitting shore about 1976-79. Springsteen, Fleetwood Mac, and the Eagles were exceptions because they never would be caught dead recording a song with the Disco beat sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimvriezen Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 O.K. point to you Tony, but I only would try to say that a small country (16 million people) has discovered many new artists over the years and unfortunately I mentioned that two disco/dance acts, but there are many more groups/singers that became first successfull in Holland, even the Bee Gees by the way: they scored a number TWO record with Spicks and specks over here in april 1967! They lived at that time already in England but Holland gave them an earlier chart position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Well actually Tony you can argue that the Eagles' "One of these Nights" with its bass line and drumbeat has a disco groove happening, although Henley has come out and said that it's a ode to Soul/R&B. The Eagles' did do a song called "the Disco Strangler."Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 If I recall, "The Disco Strangler" was a satirical song against Disco. "One Of These Nights" was released in the first half of 1975..likely written in 1974 when Disco was embryonic....what Henley said matches reality as there's not an ounce of Disco in "One Of These Nights". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Well I would argue, what is "disco" anyway? The word "disco" has taken on some extremely negative connotations over the last 30 years or so. At first the term applied to basically anything had was was danceable and could be heard in discotheques. "One Of these Nights" certainly fit into the first category. With the passing of time, any song that had *that* beat and the hi-hat working overtime, got labelled "disco." I can recall hearing KISS' "I Was Made For Loving You" in a discotheque back in 1977. Yeah it was danceable, but was it "disco."?Marvinp.s. Yes, "Disco Strangler" was certainly a satire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 "One of these Nights" definitely wasn't disco but certainly was R&B. And "Miss You" by the Stones is definitely disco, and is one song I thoroughly enjoy.And the Village People, known for disco, tried to veer over to rock, with a song called "Sleazy".Kool and the Gang, likewise, did a song that was more rock---but still without losing their personal style---called "Misled". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy K. Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 In the late 70s, disco went sort of "undergrond". Although the disco craze died out in most of the country, it was still happening in South Florida continuously. A "new" format called either "dance" or "power" came into play in the 80s, and was essentially, like disco, "mindless dance music". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Smalley Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 There´re a lot of disco hits I can´t stop listening to.I also believed that stupidity(disco vs aythentic rock) in the seventies,but is another stupid prejudice of homophobic and racist origin.I can listen to both styles.Musical prejudices exist because there´s political ideologies behind of music,sadly.It has nothing to do with an artist having an ideology or other,but if the liberals have the power,then disco,punk,crossover metal,rap,alt country,grunge,pop,etc will be succesful,if the cons have the power then Christian rock,Country,Soft AC,Bland Soul,techno pop,etc will be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Smalley Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Another song over and over: It Hurts Too Much,of course.I don´t listen to Hey Deanie in the early morning anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early Wynn Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 CDs that are always near the CD player in my house are:Raspberries - Side 3 Raspberries - Overnight SensationBadfinger - Wish You Were HereStones - Exile on Main StreetTommy Keene - Songs From the FilmTommy Keene - Ten Years AfterTommy Keene - Based on Happy TimesWho - Who's NextSteve Earle - Copperhead RoadGinblossoms - New Miserable ExperienceElvis Costello - This Year's ModelCheap Trick - Cheap Trick (1997)Graham Parker - Mona Lisa's SisterThe A's - The A'sSpringsteen - Live 75 - 85 (disc 1 only)Smash Palace - Fast Long Loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdude Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Early Wynn wrote:<<Tommy Keene - Songs From the FilmTommy Keene - Ten Years AfterTommy Keene - Based on Happy Times>>Always glad to see a fellow TK fan. Tommy's been a fave of mine for a long time, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Smalley Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Mr Deal-JC HeavyGame- The Majority OneBus Stop,Stop,Stop, Stopand Stop Right There-HolliesStrawberry Fields Forever-beatlesStrange Kind Of Woman- Deep PurpleJingo-SantanaSultana-Titanicand some disco music songs would beI Feel Love-Donna SummerLet´s All Chant-The Michael Zager BandFunky Town-Lips IncThe Sound Of Philadelphia- MFSBSexy- MFSBSoul Dracula-Hot BloodPop Muzik-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Smalley Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Tony even ignores Love Is All Around original version is by The Troggs.He doesn´t like the original due to its hippie influence-a lot of ballads from this time were in the same vein Scott Mc Kenzie´s San Francisco,Bee Gees´Massachussets,etc.But TYony prefers Wet Wet Wet´s cover because now the meaning of the song is other(and very different from the original one).Now is another Soft AC tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 As usual, Dr Smalley's drug-induced over-diagnosis is off. The original lacks good lead vocal quality and harmonies like the remake. The lead vocal on the Troggs version is too low pitch. And I like the contrast of acoustic and electric guitars in the remake.Carmen, keep on trying to convince everyone that regularly using recreational drugs is a normal and acceptable behavior. I'm sure you'll recruit a few dummies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Tony I'll take the Troggs' version of "Love is All Around" over WWW's any day. Bear in mind that WWW had a heck of a lot better technology to work with than the Troggs did.Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Actually that Troggs 45 was my favorite back in the day when you had to insert that little plastic thingie in the big hole on the 7" record to place it on your turntable :-)Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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