marvin Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 This thread is dedicated to artists (old or new) who have disappeared from the general public's attention, or that just didn't have the momentum or backing to reach mass appeal. In other words, artists that deserve(d) better: 1. Raspberries2. Badfinger3. Dwight Twilley4. Marshall Crenshaw5. Venice6. AJ CroceI'm sure that you've got many others to add.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneG Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 1. Alison Moyet2. Neil Finn3. Randy Meisner4. Andy & David Williams (later period)5. Andrew Gold6. David Grahame7. Joshua Payne8. Kyle Vincent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessieboo Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 1.savage garden2.Des'ree- you gotta be3.Dan Fogelberg4.Richard Marks5.Tony Braxton6.Laura Branigan-Gloria7.Fine Young Cannibals 8.Sade9.Janis Ian -at seventeen10.chumbawumba11.Limahl- Never ending story12.Paula Cole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScentLady Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Southside Johnny & the Asbury JukesSmithereensRachel SweetCarolyn MasHootersSquirrel Nut Zippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Some great names: Southside Johnny, Rachel Sweet, Kyle, Andrew Gold and Randy Meisner! I'd argue that Dan Fogelberg was VERY popular at one time, racking up platinum sales fairly routinely. He still has a pretty strong following.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessieboo Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I thought of Dan Fogelberg because I couldn'tfind anything of his at Barnes & noble the other day I love his music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Good call on Andrew Gold... Anyone remember Paul Davis? I'd also have to throw out: JellyfishWondermintsThe LA'sPaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brioohs Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Kevin Gilbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Kevin Gilbert? Educate us please Brian.How about Bob Allen's favourite, the Pernice Brothers?Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Janis Ian intrigued me, Bessieboo. I loved her album "At Seventeen." I always thought she would fare better than she did. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Joe SouthJimmy Webb (good but I never felt he got his just rewards)Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Sterling as a singer, Jimmy has never received his 'rewards', but he's certainly made his mark as a songwriter. His catalogue of songs is probably among the most lucrative.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Kevin Gilbert Great call! His solo and Toy Matinee are brilliant (The solo stuff can get pretty dark, though.)Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brioohs Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Quote:Originally posted by Brioohs: Kevin Gilbert Great call! His solo and Toy Matinee are brilliant (The solo stuff can get pretty dark, though.)Paul Indeed and agreed. To further clarify (per Marv's request), Kevin is probably best known for his work on Sheryl Crow's "Tuesday Night Music Club," and in fact brought her into the "Club" as they were an item at the time. (Sheryl also played keyboards in a short-lived live lineup of Toy Matinee. A recording from The Roxy does exist and is intended to eventually be released by Gilbert's estate.)Kevin's manager was Jon Rubin (of The Rubinoos), and Jon is now executor of Kevin's estate. Sadly, Kevin died ten years ago, just before he had a shot at replacing Phil Collins in Genesis. (There's a legendary unauthorized live recording of Gilbert performing "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" with a version of his band Giraffe.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Ok you've sold me. Where can I find Kevin's music?Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 It all depends on your definition of "made his mark" as a songwriter. Yes, he(Jimmy Webb) had some very big hits and was very prolific in the late 60's...but I am not sure that in the general public he is that well known. Sure...among individuals who study this stuff and eat, sleep and breathe it ....he is huge .....but that is not always true for the average person. This is just my opinion and it is unscientific but...I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I think a lot of people here would like Kevin Gilbert's Toy Matinee album/project. Not exactly classically defined power pop but not a million miles away either... brilliant lyrics, great songwriting/performance/production... they should have been huge. Then Nirvana hit shortly after and those kinds of talents were rendered moot by the music buying masses who suddenlydidn't want anybody who would actually stoop as low as tuning their guitars......or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Phil no doubt that the average person wouldn't know Jimmy Webb by name. This is a good example where the songs are infinitely better known than the songwriter. No disagreement from me.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brioohs Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 http://www.popplusone.com This site carries the Gilbert material that has been posthumously released by his estate. While it is one of the most amazing albums I've ever heard, a word of warning for those that may be offended by language in regard to "The Shaming Of The True." Also look for the self-titled album by Toy Matinee. There are three versions, the original on Reprise, and a "special edition" released 10 years later with bonus material. The third version is a DTS 5.1 surround mix on DVD-Audio. I have to agree with Paul that this is probably the "easiest" way to get into Kevin, and you may be familiar with the songs "Last Plane Out" and "The Ballad Of Jenny Ledge" as they both got decent FM airplay back in the day (1990).Also look for Kevin's first solo album "Thud," especially if you can get it with the bonus EP that contains a cover of Led Zep's "Kashmir."Also there are lots of samples of his music at the KG website: http://www.kevingilbert.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 How about Bob Allen's favourite, the Pernice Brothers?Marv [/QB]& mine too. easily hands down the best artist (Joe Pernice) of the 00s'.... he continues to grow... "Live A Little" (the new CD is a masterpiece)also Bob Allen's brother Tommy's band The Flashcubes, although, I would say that Screen Test (the Flashcubes minus Paul Armstrong) were THE band (in 1981-1982) that was AMAZING in peak form... and should've been signed & released that one GREAT album during the heyday....others:DramaramaEd HarcourtMarjorie Fair Trashcan SinatrasMood SixJon BrionDictatorsSmart Brown HandbagDirty Looks20/20Van DurenAluminum GroupThe Blakes/ Readymade BreakupHamell On Trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich From PA Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Just off the top of my head:Paul WellerGraham ParkerJohn EddieRaul MaloDave AlvinEllen Foley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim From Wisconsin Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 StarzAngelHead EastAll of the above could/should have been much bigger in my opinion.Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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