MikeC Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 This year's 49th Grammy Awards on CBS at www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/20/music-grammys/main2287217.shtml will also see Trustees Awards for the non-performing category for Stax Records co-founder Estelle Axton. Also for the great lyricist/composer, Stephen Sondheim. And for recording engineer, Cosimo Matassa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdude Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The Doors, Grateful Dead and Joan Baez? Yikes! Anyone who has the stomach to listen to their recorded output oughta be given the Lifetime Achievement Award. Or maybe some sort of medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 You know alot more than I do, Popdude. I read about this story on my cell phone three weeks ago. I remember a little bit of Joan Baez. Wasn't she married to Bob Dylan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdude Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I remember a little bit of Joan Baez. Wasn't she married to Bob Dylan? No, never married, but apparently they were an item at some point in the early '60s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Popdude, I think Prince will be playing at The Grammy's and also at the half-time Super Bowl Football Game in the first week of February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 This is like the R&RHoF. If you like them, that's great, if you don't, well that's great also. Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdude Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 This is like the R&RHoF. If you like them, that's great, if you don't, well that's great also. Marv That's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The Doors, Grateful Dead and Joan Baez? Yikes! Anyone who has the stomach to listen to their recorded output oughta be given the Lifetime Achievement Award. Or maybe some sort of medal. So I'm not the only one who doesn't like the Doors? Personally I think the Dead SHOULD be given an award for sheer volume of drugs consumed... I mean they stood out for that in the freaking Rock world. That is no small feat.(Waiting for the inevitable "Little Feat" pun.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Glad you agree Popdude.I'm not a fan of the Dead or the Doors and never will be, but at the same time I'll never criticize someone for liking the music. To each his own. God knows there are many who question my musical tastes.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I second Popdude's comments..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Marshall Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Some Doors' songs are outstanding. Some, kind of OK. Some, ponderous and a pain to listen to. Their best stuff makes them more than OK in my book. Never really 'got' the Dead though. Some of it's 'nice'. Some...strictly amateur hour material. Baez? Not enough good stuff to give her any 'ranking' in my books. She seemed to me to be a 'hanger on'. [riding on the coat-tails of those who SEEMED to be important and committed...which includes several 'folk singers' who only hung in there for a short while...and several in their 'audiences' as well] Way too much hype. Not nearly enough substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim From Wisconsin Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I agree with Marvin - To each their own.For me: The Doors and The Dead = . It's another reason to avoid watching The Grammy's. Being the occasional "Metal" fan, when Jethro Tull beat out Metallica for "Best Metal Album" a few years ago...that signaled the end of Grammy watching for me. I'm not sure if I would even know half of the acts nominated these days.Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ironically, John Mellencamp just released his new cd yesterday, and there's a duet with Joan Baez on there. Who da thunk?Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Davie Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Yeah, I agree with most of ya here. These three artists/groups. They are all 'acquired tastes'. Nonetheless, pioneers in their sub-genre-niches:1. The Doors: proved any lounge band can get a get gig if the keyboardist can play bass with his left hand2. The Dead: that a band can have the most state of the art sound system and still sound tinny3. Joan Baez: that you can make a political statement while gargling...i mean, singing with heavy vibrato. Just listen to her disciples Alannis Morrisette and that chick with The CranberriesAt least Joan introduced Dylan to Lennon in '65. John went acoustic and Bobby went electric. Genius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 1) The Doors... Paul, you seriously underestimate the Doors... they were so much more than a lounge band... they were a lounge band and a drunken buffoon with a mike.2) The Dead... What did the Dead-head say when the drugs wore off? "This music sucks"!3) Joan Baez... OK Paul I'll give you that one!She does have some merit though I never warmed up to her music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I agree with Marvin - To each their own.For me: The Doors and The Dead = . It's another reason to avoid watching The Grammy's. Being the occasional "Metal" fan, when Jethro Tull beat out Metallica for "Best Metal Album" a few years ago...that signaled the end of Grammy watching for me. I'm not sure if I would even know half of the acts nominated these days.Tim It WAS inappropriate... Jethro Tull even thought that, which is why they didn't show up for the award. People still drag them through the mud for that even though they had nothing to do with it. (Not saying that you are Tim, just making an observation.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Davie Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 LMAO. Remember the old joke: "The Doors Open at 8pm...and then the GOOD band starts at 9!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim From Wisconsin Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Mr E: No, I never had any negative thoughts toward Jethro Tull, just the idiots who did the voting!Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Marshall Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I recall when Petula Clark was winning grammies for her 'rock 'n' roll' and when the New Vaudeville Band's 'Winchester Cathedral' knocked off 'Good Vibrations' in the '67 [for '66] awards. I haven't given that 'show' my attention or respect since. Why waste your time? It's a long walk...punctuated with disappointments. Might as well be golf. THAT [grammy awards]...and the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame have their own secret agendae...that has nothing to do with the music or the art...or the accomplishments. It's just business. Pure crap.Tull's recently released [like in the past decade] Xmas lp is pretty darned groovy. I've always liked them. Perhaps they didn't get recognized for what they DO...but they did get a nod. If it matters to you.As for Metalica [was it?] I could care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspberrywine Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Wow, really surprised by the Doors bashing. This was a band that could be extremely experimental and provacative and still wrote killer pop music when they desired.( Hello I Love You, Touch Me, The Crystal Ship, Light My Fire, Love Me Two Times, Love Her Madly...) They were great song writers and they had one of the most unique overall sounds in rock.Some people are uncomfortable with some of their psychodrama and "poetry" but at times they even did that well(The End, When the Musics Over.) Greatful Dead bore me stiff but I would give any award to the Doors. They are another band from that period of time that continue to inspire young musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Marshall Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Wow, really surprised by the Doors bashing. This was a band that could be extremely experimental and provacative and still wrote killer pop music when they desired.( Hello I Love You, Touch Me, The Crystal Ship, Light My Fire, Love Me Two Times, Love Her Madly...) They were great song writers and they had one of the most unique overall sounds in rock.Some people are uncomfortable with some of their psychodrama and "poetry" but at times they even did that well(The End, When the Musics Over.) Greatful Dead bore me stiff but I would give any award to the Doors. They are another band from that period of time that continue to inspire young musicians. I/m surprised to. I like ...really like...about 1/2 of their body of work. I'm really not into the poetry/the drama though. Wasn't then. And I'm still not. Morrison was just a little 'fouled' up. As such...he didn't always strike a chord with me. But I agree...any recognition they get is deserved...especially compared to some others who've already been 'recognized'.[i typed this with my pants ON...and zipper up] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'm not that surprised at the Doors' lack of popularity here....too much psychodrama, poetry, drugs and buffoonery for the power pop crowd; not to mention that some of us are also just tired of hearing many of their songs thousands of times on classic rock radio over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm not that surprised at the Doors' lack of popularity here....too much psychodrama, poetry, drugs and buffoonery for the power pop crowd; not to mention that some of us are also just tired of hearing many of their songs thousands of times on classic rock radio over the years. That's a pretty good assessment. I actually don't dislike EVERYTHING they ever did, Riders on the Storm, Hello I love, Light my fire all still work for me. I'm afraid I was subjected to waaaaaayyyy too much of the later stuff especially LA Woman that drove me nuts... to the point I never wanted to hear them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspberrywine Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Hmmm, I guess I didnt realize poetry, drugs and power pop were mutually exclusive. Someone should have informed that to The Who. I think people tend to really appreciate Morrison or despise him. Not too much in between ground. Regardless, he and Robbie Krieger were formidible songwriters when they put their minds to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 In the "love 'em or hate 'em" department, a guy I went to school with (Danny Sugarman) has turned out to be kind of a guru on the Doors. Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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