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Eric (and any other writers/performers),

How do you keep performances fresh when it takes so much effort to write, have the other performers in the band learn the song, record and mix the song, then play a song over a thousand times in concert? Do you have songs you never tire of and songs that you really don't care to play? (no titles, please). I am not a wtiter or performer so I don't know if you ever feel this way.

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I read a recent interview with Linda Ronstadt where she said that she shies away from her old 'hits' because she feels no connection to those songs. She also admitted that when she sees another concert (she mentioned Tom Petty), she goes hoping to hear the hits. Therefore, she reluctantly throws in a couple of hits in her show because she knows the fans came to hear those songs.

When I saw her concert last month, it wasn't until the 21st song of the evening (second last), that she sang a 'hit' - "Blue Bayou."

Marv

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Having said that, I'd be lying if I told you that every old song feels fresh every night. One of the reasons I pushed to throw a few new cover tunes into the shows was to be able to play something new for the fans AND FOR US! It can get pretty tedious playing the same songs over and over again, especially when they're thirty years old. I'm just glad the songs seem to have stood the test of time as well as they have. ec

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I've seen John Mellencamp a number of times in concert and one thing that impresses me is, his ability to re-invent his own songs. Considering he's toured basically non-stop for the last 25 years, God knows he's grown tired of singing songs like "Small Town" and "Jack and Diane" for the zillionth time. He's done a great job of changing the arrangements via vocal or instrument re-structuring, basically breathing new life into the song while also making it interesting again for him to sing. I wonder if Eric had a similar feeling with the 'new' version of "I Wanna Be With You."?

Marv

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As The Raspberries reunion continues one of the best ways to retain the freshness is to include a new song or two...Something that you or one or more of the other guys have written...We know and love The Raspberries 30 plus year old songs...But I think both old and new fans are curious about The Raspberries today...What kind of record could they make if they would?...

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I think The Raspberries today, could maybe throw in a acouple of re-mixes, if possible, alot now either go for that, pop-sound with a alittle dance to it, Or maybe alot of twist?

Their is no-way I would like to hear a rap version of Go all All The Way", Then again, rap is a good thing, as long as the song stays clean.

Rap is big now.

That would prove interesting.

Then again, let's still keep the original as it is.

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Ah, come on, Cartmill--writing together takes time. They're still mixing the cd. In my view, Eric's taking time to sit down to begin writing is a huge thing. It sounds like the start of a natural progression. They'll get there.

Of course, Mr. Cartmill, if you have time on your hands between strangulations at Raspberries shows, :lol: , you should sit down with your brother, do some collaborative writing and put out a cd for us in the meantime!

Your offerings on the Fan cd were great! Or...do you think it would take you some time to do that? ;)

:) --Darlene

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The real key is to write with someone who isn't redundant. The reason I enjoy working with Dean is because he's mainly a lyricist and the music comes most easily to me. It's kind of silly for two guys who both write music but need a whole lot of time to work on a lyric to sit down to write together, because when they get done, chances are, they still don't have a lyric. That's why the great teams like Burt Bacharach and Hal David and Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein worked so well together. It's very rare that you get a team like Lennon and McCartney where both were capable of great music AND great lyrics. ec

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Tony Cartmill said:

... there is some co-writing friction there that still hasn't been addressed or resolved.

I remember an impressive record of co-authorship of songs in the 'Berries and beyond, and only ever remember hearing of the pleasures of these shared creative experiences from the parties involved.

So what's with the petty voyeurism? What happens within a marriage or any other partnership is something only the partners really know. And it really isn't anyone else's business.

Besides, I doubt that any of these particular folks have shared their most intimate relationship details with someone of the vast sensitivity and understanding of TC.

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I can understand where Eric is coming from...I'd rather write lyrics...It's much easier for me...I can come up with melodies too...But not as fast as or as well as I can write lyrics...So if I had the chance i'd rather write with someone who specialized in the music...That way I would have a better melody to work with...and better melodies can lead to better lyrics I think...as well as the other way around...Two specialists working on a song can put their heads together and come up with something they could have conceived on their own.

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Why yes, Wally and Eric call me about once a month for advice on how they can get back together as a writing team. I tell them to wait till they are a little older and more mature, and that collaberation magic they had from 1970-72 will come around again...

Dear Professor,

anybody who knows any history about the 'Berries Boys knows they co-wrote some fine tunes together early on, then stopped co-writing because of some friction in egos, styles and direction of the band. I think a couple of books mentioned it briefly... :rolleyes:

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