Raspbernie Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 WAIT! One more addition to the bookÖ oh yeah, it's already at the printer :-)Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I've listened to the song 5 times, and I think it is very good. This is certainly not dated. I can envision sitting at a theater and hearing this song as movie credits roll. Great job to everybody involved in making this happen. This was too good to get for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Yeah I got to hear the song. So here are my observations as well as some questions. - I wasn't sold on the melody at first listen, but the 2nd time around, it was more catchy.- Easily the best-sounding Eric song I've heard in the last 10-15 years.- Is this Eric's melody and Desmond's lyrics?- What is the song missing? How about some harmonies?Thanks Bernie for yours and everyone else's efforts in getting this out for us to hear. Eric if you are reading, there's no reason in the world that your unreleased material should be hidden away in someone's garage. Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymooladi Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 It's Fann-tastic!! Thanks to all who worked on making this happen, especially Eric who cared enough about us to let us enjoy it. I have already listened to it at least 10 times. It's a great song, Eric. Thanks so much, June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I can't find the link on my work computer. What can I do? Something is messed up with this computer when it comes to finding links... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew C. Clark Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 My computer had cable modem problems this afternoon but the song "Never Say Die" reminds me of those Bryan Adams songs "Cuts Like A Knife" & "Summer Of '69". Best song since "Make Me Lose Control"!! Glad it wasn't the 1978 Black Sabbath remake. Thanks Bernie! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Kyle Vincent mentioned Eric's song a couple of years ago responding to a question, saying he corrosponded with Eric and they found out both had written a song called "Never Say Die". Kyle's song was put on his MCA CD in 1993 that was never released in North America. Good CD. I got a copy thanks to an illegal release in Japan. Stupid MCA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordharris Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 "NEVER SAY DIE" A good theme song soundtrack for a movie, Huhwith Hollywood Pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 W O W !!!!!!The goosepimples are still with me from hearing "Never Say Die"! This whole thing is truly amazing. I've been praying for something like this! I love the song, and I love the production. The musicians are wonderful. The guitars sound awesome! Bernie, WOW!!! This song sounds like a combination of the best of Raspberries and Eric! Whenever I see something I want, but don't buy it, return to the store and it's still there, and even on sale, I always say "God wanted me to have it!" With the anonymous locker-buyer, the mystery tape, the unsolicited e-mail to Bernie, and this song, (not to mention the gorgeous picture of Eric), all I can say is, "God wants this song out there!" Eric, make this a truly magnificent birthday: "Hang on to the fire inside," and put your music out there! And "Never Say Die!"Still goosepimpling, --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Boy, leave the message board for a few hours and look what excitement happens!!!!! What a great song, thanks to Bernie and all associated with the saving of the tape, recording the backing tracks, and to Eric for allowing it to be posted. I can't begin to tell you how great a surprise this was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanTylerVO Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 WOW. a new tune f rom Eric..and after finally getting to hear Devil and Deep Blue Sea last week,it's just very clear to me that his voice, passion in his delivery combined with that wonderful thing he knows how to write and find, called a "song hook",Eric continues to stand alone. This new tune is an example of the pure power that comes from within the talented Mr. Carmen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Well Dean it's not actually a new tune, but certainly new to our ears. So Bernie is it Eric's melody and Desmond's lyrics?Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Does anybody have Desmond Child's 1991 "Discipline" CD. I think that is his only solo release. It is a solid CD. Desmond is a master co-writer...like Dianne Warren. I think he has a killer voice too.He used to co-write with Butch Walker when he was trying to make Butch's old band Southgang another Bon Jovi type success. Didn't work. Desmond co-wrote most of Bon Jovi's mega-hits, in case you didn't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Oh Wow!!! I just got home and was simply just checking in and I think I must be having the BEST dream of my life!!! I'm afraid somebody is going to pinch me and wake me up!!Can you tell I'm excited??!!! Ditto everything Darlene said! I've got the goosebumps too!!!WooooooooooooooooooHHHHoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!Thank you!!!!--Julie (the delirious Iowa farm girl) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-o Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Marvin: I agree the more you listen to it the better it gets. Good melody and lyrics, great guitars but it does need harmonies. What a find (and just before the book comes out)!!! Steve-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Desmond was in a band in the 1970's called "Desmond Child & Rouge", with a couple of females. I used to the album but it disappeared in one of my moves. I bought it on the strength of a review and remember not being overly impressed.Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Before I hear it when I get home, People, stand back and be honest with yourselves. Is it really that good of a song? Would Eric abandon another great song? Should this song have made the cut on WD? Is it as good as "Cindy In The Wind"? Or are you all just so grateful to hear anything new by Eric, you would get a stiffy just hearing a Carmen burp in a microphone?"Oh, but it is such a passionate burp, full of emotion and depth...I can almost taste a little bile coming up in my own throat when I listen to Eric's belch...Genius!" Do I need to move to Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Tony the song does have some interesting things happening, but for me, it's not up to Carmen pop standards. Bernie and friends did a fine job of fleshing it out, but unless Eric was being his own worst critic again, there's a reason why it didn't make "WD." I'll keep listening to it, and give it a chance to grow on me more. I will say that it sounded a lot better the second time around than the first time, unlike "Cindy", which floored me from the first listen. Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Critics! (or at least they think they are) Just ignore them Bernie, I'm sure the majority of us are very appreciative of what you've done for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 C'mon Mike I never said that I wasn't appreciative of Bernie. I truly appreciate what Bernie did and continues to do. I simply gave an opinion on the song.Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Benfer Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I must say that I like it better than anything on Winter Dreams. I think "Cindy..." is a better song, but it's probably unfair to compare the two. I think one of the things that appeals to me about this song are the real instuments. That has always been my problem with Winter Dreams. It's all just a matter of taste. If you were to include this song among the releases, it's my favorite since "Make Me Lose Control". I disagree with Marvin; I do believe it lives up to Eric's pop standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannoman Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Holy Kwap Bernie - what an awesome song. I am blown away. I hope Eric is impressed with the end result. You is da man!!!! I will probably play the song all night. The wife is off to see family for the weekend so it's me and the dog, and she doesn't complain about the volume.Thank you, thank you, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannoman Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Now that I have had a chance to read all the comments and replay the song about 7 or 8 times I stand by my previous post. You guys did an awesome job.I agree with Craig it IS better than any of the cuts on WD.Sorry you aren't blown away Marvin but the more you listen the more you'll join the club. This is a good song. Unlike Darlene (I think it was Darlene) I feel the intro is weak,sufficiently so to keep it from airplay (ya gotta grab 'em in the first 8 bars).What kind of ground swell will it take to get Eric to increase his visibilty? All the marketing pieces are coming together without a designed campaign. Imagine what a coordinated campaign might produce. It's all about timing and it's happening without trying to make it happen.Bernie, How can we help? Hey, did you get the cut I emailed you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Eric on "Never Say Die":"I recall spending the day with Desmond Child who announced as I walked in the door that he was in his Burt Bacharach mode. It was his title and he just sort of launched into the verse, which I thought was good but a bit strange for me. He was so opinionated that I was a bit intimidated at first. By the time we reached the chorus I was loosening up and we pretty much traded lines. By the time we reached the bridge I'd been pushed around enough and decided to take over, hence, the bridge was me. It was great fun hearing it again and you guys did an incredible job with it."Bernie- - - -PS: For those of you who are into stats and such, "Never Say Die" was downloaded 908 times between 3:55 p.m. and 12:00 a.m. last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordharris Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Bernie, The Never Say Die", picture of Eric makes a great screensaver.Hear that guys!Bernie, I hope you don't mind.It does make a good screensaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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