mannoman Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I can't believe no one listed The Outfield. They have some amazing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Good one Ted. The Outfield, for their brief moment in the sun, released some fine pop tunes.Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I can't believe no one listed The Outfield. They have some amazing stuff. like Boston, they sound too much like a studio band (i.e. overproduced) to have the desired impact that is truly POWER POP which is why the RASPBERRIES are so special... they learned from the Who, Kinks, Beatles, Small Faces etc, that you need to capture that element of live rock and roll on your records... which sounds easier than it actually is... bands who blend "pop" with "rock" without an edge are basically "pop/rock" bands... the needed power, energy, edge, intensity is the fleeting rare ephemeral magic to make something power pop... pure magic in a bottle... it's the reason why a band like the Raspberries created POWER POP and ELO didn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollies65 Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 ELO were not power pop...but they made mindboggling pop music....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdThyJpmFnw this didn't even chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollies65 Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 That song above was 'Nightrider'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Now *there's* a new genre "Mindboggling Pop."Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollies65 Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 Ha! I meant to write mindbogglingly good pop music.Those ELO records from 74-77 were unreal with the amount of insanely catchy songs they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I also loved that period of ELO's music. Some adventureous stuff tossed in there for good measure as well. You could take the best tracks from "Eldorado", "Face the Music", "New World Record", and "Out of the Blue", and put together one album of "mindbogglingly good pop music." Marv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ira Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 So would "The Move" who gave birth to ELO with such songs as "Fire Brigade" and "Flowers In The Rain" be considered "Power Pop"?-Ira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 So would "The Move".... be considered "Power Pop"?-Ira. yes... definitely on songs like "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" (although the lyrics don't match) and "Do Ya" (not the ELO version).... also their live version of "So You Wanna Be A R&R Star".... The Move had a lot more "Who" in them than ELO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannoman Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by mannoman:I can't believe no one listed The Outfield. They have some amazing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brioohs Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Quote:Originally posted by ira: So would "The Move".... be considered "Power Pop"?-Ira. yes... definitely on songs like "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" (although the lyrics don't match) and "Do Ya" (not the ELO version).... also their live version of "So You Wanna Be A R&R Star".... The Move had a lot more "Who" in them than ELO You have to consider that there are two different eras to The Move, with Roy Wood & Bev Bevan being the constants between the two. There was the original 5-man lineup ("I Can Hear The Grass Grow," "Night Of Fear," "Blackberry Way," "Fire Brigade," "Cherry Blossom Clinic...Revisited," etc.) and then the 4-piece which included Jeff Lynne which eventually morphed into ELO when Wood & Lynne started to embrace their "inner Beatle". The early period certainly was a transition from big-beat to psychedelia, and by the time Lynne came aboard they were turning into more of an "FM" kind of group with more experimentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 The early period certainly was a transition from big-beat to psychedelia, and by the time Lynne came aboard they were turning into more of an "FM" kind of group with more experimentation. [/QB]still... both periods embraced a certain energy & definitely captured the MOD zen... ergo power pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierson Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Pierson, I have to disagree. To me, studio bands do not replicate their sound very well when performing live. Boston, live, was almost imperceptable from their studio sound. I was expecting much less. [/QB]well, what i should have said was slick... both Boston & The Outfield took pop/rock to a more polished & less exciting place than our beloved Raspberries.... both bands have vocals that are WAY too overtweaked (or over dubbed)... and the guitars are very layered... it never sounds like you're hearing a bass, drums & guitar/s as it truly is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Quote:When you say overproduced the first band that comes to mind is ELO. [/QB]"Overproduced" is a highly subjective term. I know some that think The Raspberries are overproduced. I am not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollies65 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Ithink those choice ELO cut's ['Strange Magic','Tightrope','Telephone Line',etc.] are well produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlesteve Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 ELO sounded fine live back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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