danmichel Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 One song i think should have been a bigger hit for The Raspberries..."Starting Over"...I can't believe in all these years that someone hasn't had a hit cover version...just a great song...with emotions that are so universal...I'm still waiting...Maybe the Raspberries could give that one another try...There are so many ways to go with that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early Wynn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I ran out at lunch and listened to "I Can Hardly Believe You're Mine" again. What a great song. Besides the great drumming and keyboards, Wally's solo is a standout. Maybe we'll hear it live in 2006??? Please??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I couldn't agree more with Early and Margaret. Absolutely "I Can Hardly Believe You're Mine." What music! What lyrics! It's a definite "Oh My God" moment. It should have been a single. It would have been a hit. It *is* a hit, in my eyes. --D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 I'd be interested to know which part of that song was contributed by Scott McCarl and which part by Eric . I think I read somewhere, maybe in Overnight Overnight Sensation , that Eric and Scott traded off; each wrote lyrics for one and music for the other for that song and " Cry " but don't recall for certain. Along with their work on "Play On" those songs showed the potential for a great collaborating future. Sadly it did not get to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 keep hope alive!!!! one never knows what will happen in berrie land!! gotta contribute "don't hide your love" by the rembrandts off of "L.P.' ...also "i still want you" from tattoo,wally's tune and probally band/project!!! BOTH should have been HUGE hits..lol,chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 I agree that there is still hope. Just because he's not currently part of the band doesn't mean that Scott couldn't resurface as part of a writing team. Long odds, granted, but stranger things have happened. I hope our four heroes make it big this time and stay together, but Scott did a great job when he was tasked with helping keep the group going for Starting Over. I always hope he'll get to be at least a small part of the big picture! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hess Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 could not have said it any better...i totally agree wholeheartily on eric/scott combo...there's definately some good chemistry there!!! it could still happen,maybe a guest appearance on the new raspberries album that will be comin out!!!lol,chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Carmen Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 If memory serves me, I think the music was mostly mine and Scott and I worked out the lyric together. Play On was all Scott, right up tothe chorus. He was stumped and didn't know where to go because he was thinking that what is now the verse was the chorus. When he played the verse for me, I walked over to the piano and the music for the chorus just kind of fell out. We then worked on the chorus lyric together and wrote the bridge. Cry was Scott's idea, and he had the whole verse once again. I came up with "Babe I thought I'd never see the day"....etc. music, and we worked the lyric out togetther. I loved working with Scott. We were really on the same page. e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I wonder if there was anything in the can that Eric and Scott had been working on had there been a 5th Raspberries album? Might make for some interesting 'new' material--Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Ever since I saw the guys perform the slow version of IWBWY on VH1-Classic, I've kept having strong thoughts about new material, and they keep coming back. I wouldn't be surprised if some surfaced. --D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlesteve Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'm bias, but not only do I think "If You Change Your Mind" should have been a single, I still think it would float in todays turbulent AC climate. That's a melody, with a terrific bridge that is timeless, ala Let's Pretend.Seattle Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlesteve Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 One more... Little twist, I beleive "It Hurts Too Much" WAS released as a single, but that, with any promotion, should have been a big hit (IMHO).Seattle Stve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggsherby Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 "If You Change Your Mind" is indeed a great song, I agree with you Steve it could be hit today. ...and I just loved It Hurts Too Much and was shocked it didn't do better on the charts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Thanks for your perspective Eric. It's great to get it from the source! - Paulie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ira Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I know I'm stating the obvious-but isn't Eric's shouting at this song's climax-what great Rock and Roll is about? Forgive me-'cause I'd bet many before me have stated their adoration for this song's climax-Ira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecstasy Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Oh yeah, Ira! I always get chills at that climax. If You Change Your Mind is definitely one of my favorites and could easily work today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 If You Change Your Mind was breathtaking live (just last year!) It *does* work today and definitely should be recorded. I'm beginning to smell Raspberries again... --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Simon C. Li Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Eric has many songs in his solo career that could have great hits. "I'm through with love" is the only one have to. This is the song of my love with two fincees through the time passage of 1984~1988. The choice is always the bitterest heart-cut in my life.I am keeping it alive and hit in the air now everyday everytime when my celluar phone rings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Actually it seems that each of Eric's solo efforts for Arista spawned three singles. Even for the final album, "Tonight You're Mine" which the company failed to give any support at all yielded those three singles. Makes one think that perhaps there was a contractual obligation on their part to issue three singles with each LP for the duration of Eric's time with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 "If You Change Your Mind" seems to be the leader in this thread.... Speaking of which, I've been reading the Bernie/Ken book and one thing that strikes me is how little input an artist seems to have when it comes to singles. I mean, geez, the record company wants to make money, of course, so they'll obviously put out what they want as singles. And sometimes it's obvious ("Go All the Way," "I Wanna Be With You"). But otherwise, it often seems like there are all kinds of in-the-boardroom decisions that shock/surprise/dismay the artist. Maybe with the McCartneys and Springsteens of the world, the artist can complete an album and announce, "These will be my four singles. Period." But if you judge by the Raspberries' and Eric's experience (even going back to pre-Raspberries bands), the artist often gets a curveball thrown at him. Or a screwball. Or a knuckleball.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 And when they're young, they're just glad to be in the ball game at all...I think it's probably the number one factor in some artists starting their own labels. Sure, it's nice to make more money; but I suspect that creative control is more important. Especially if you already have enough success to bankroll your own label! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kiwi Connection Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Kia ora Guys,I agree "If You Change Your Mind" is a brilliant song ,as for an EC song I agree with Bernie,"She Remembered" has to be my pick.But there again here in NZ none of singles released did very well probably due to lack of good promotion.Though for saying that I recall a DJ friend of mine commenting after the release of the Boats album that he and a number of other people in radio here in NZ felt that EC was atleast 15 years ahead of his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliaAllByMyself Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 ‘I Can Hardly Believe You're Mine’. I just absolutely love that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecstasy Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Yeah, Julia, I thought of that one, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ira Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Here's a brilliant opportunity for me to expose my ignorance.The name of this post is "Songs That Shoulda Been Hits".Well It's been a long time since I listened to FM radio with any consistency (I do listen to Sports,Talk, News,and Oldies on AM). I do know that I did originally hear"I Wanna Take Forever Tonight" by Cetera and Crystal Bernard a few times on "Adult Contemporary" radio when I occassionally listened.I also know that some stuff played on this format is what we used to call "Turntable Hits"- songs that got radio play,and were not big sellers -because us old folks don't buy enough new music.I love this song-and I love the Cetera-Bernard version.Was this song a "Hit"or was it a "Song That Shoulda Been A Hit"?-Ira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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