bosbuff Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 I recently acquired the Raspberries "Collector's Series" CD on Capital. I'm sure most of you-all have it. It is just wonderful, and I think the song selections and sequencing is very well done. The question I have is: Is it my imagination, or didn't the LP version of "Overnight Sensation/Hit Record" have a very short and quiet bit of "Go All the Way" at the very end of the song? I have to admit I keep listening for it and sort of miss it - I thought it was a clever bit. Or is it that maybe the LP and single versions differed in this respect. Anyone who has info on this "crucial" question, please chime in (A Rickenbacher 360 12-string will aid and abett your "chiming," no doubt.) Thanks. Bosbuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaroxx Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 I am not sure. I may be all wrong but it seems to me that many of the recordings of that time were stored incorrectly. The way to store multi-track analog recording, was tails out. Meaning that the tape should be run off the reel backwards to a second reel and stored that way (backwards). The result, sometimes if not stored that way was to have a sort of ghost image transferred to tape at a much lower volume. This ghost image was sometimes heard at the beginning of a song or at the end, at a very faint volume. This is probably not what you are talking about, however, I am not crazy, this phenomenon did exist. Digital recording has virtually eliminated this problem.Cheers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donmand Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Hi Bosbuff:Here's the deal on the Overnight Sensation lp cut. The vinyl lp had a COOL 5 second intro to "Go all the Way" added to the end of "Overnight Sensation". This was a "audio trick" producer Jimmy Ienner added. It was a fun way to call attention to Raspberries 1st big Hit (GATW) at the end of the just released, Hit single: "Overnight Sensation". They were hoping for Good Karma by adding the Hit song intro; I believe! ! ! Re-released versions of "Overnight Sensation" vary. The Japanese CD pressing of "Starting Over" had the GATW intro. The RPM 2 on 1 (Side 3/Starting Over)CD reissues did NOT. I'll check my Capitol Collectors Series CD and the Zap (British import) CD's tonight. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaroxx Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Glad you cleared it up Donmand. I did not think my posting was what he was after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Donmand, Did the pop series take the GATW intro off by design? And why would they do that, I wonder? VERY interesting...Thanks for the info. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Don-- Wow! That's something even I didn't know. Kudos to you! --Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Don you awakened a lot of my brain cells. My lp version of "Starting Over" has the "GATW" snippet. I remember hearing it the first time I listened to the lp 25 years ago, and never thought twice about it until - now!MARVIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew C. Clark Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 It also appears on "Raspberries' Best Featuring Eric Carmen" album from 1976. (Snippet of "GATW"). Then it goes to "Let's Pretend". Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donmand Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 I went thru all my Raspberries CD's + the original vinyl lp with Overnight Sensation on them. Here are the results with track time for OS and if it has the GATW intro:Starting Over lp - (1974 Capitol ST-11329) original vinyl: 5:34 has GATWGreatest Hits CD (2000 Capitol 72435-24396-2-1) (RARE unreleased +4 bonus cuts) 5:36 has GATWStarting Over CD - (1991 Capitol TOCP-6361) Japan only 5:36 has GATWThe following releases do NOT have the GATW intro:Very Best of The Raspberries CD (ZAP CD1) French import 5:30Raspberries Power Pop Vol 2 (1996 RPM 163) Side 3/Starting Over British import 5:29Raspberries Best - featuring Eric Carmen CD (1989 Capitol CP28-1020) Japan only 5:27Raspberries - Collectors Series CD (1991 Capitol CDP 7 92126 2) 5:24The Raspberries - Greatest Hits CD (Capitol CDP 7243 8 33669 2 7) (1995 white cover with single Raspberry) 5:23As you can see there is a wide variety of editing on the song: "Overnight Sensation"! ! !Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Might have had something to do with how fast the engineer pulled the trigger after "O.S." fades out. Or was it a person at all. Maybe there was too much elapsed time between the fade out and the "GATW" intro and the silence triggered an auto cut-off at the end of the recording. Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew C. Clark Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Even Eric yelling out "Mama Yeah, Woo". Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I love Eric yelling Yeah Mama Woo. --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosbuff Posted February 14, 2003 Author Share Posted February 14, 2003 Thank you guys for responding to my question about the snippet of "Go All the Way" at the end of "Overnight Sensation." But I wish they had left it on the so-called "Collector's" series CD, since it WAS on the original LP. But At least now I am relieved to know that I am not "hearing things", and I can go back to my "normal" run-o'-the-mill insanity. Bosbuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 All the voices in my head remember hearing that "GATW" snippet at the end of "OS" on the original album. Most of us new it was connected to "OS" in reference because "GATW" was a "Hit Record Yeah..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cartmill Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Now I have to go and listen to see if it is on any of my CD's like the German "Best of the Raspberries" or the "Difinitive Collection"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosbuff Posted February 19, 2003 Author Share Posted February 19, 2003 Like "they" say: "It's the little things that'll kill ya!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 bosbuff, Welcome to EC.com! It's so great to haveso MANY new people posting! What an up to know that so many people are joining the board becausethey are attracted to Eric's music! The more themerrier!!!! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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