MAM Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I remember reading an interview where one of the Berries said that they re-recorded the entire first album because it just didn't sound like them. It's got me wondering if the track listing was the same, if the arrangments were different, etc. Just how bad did it sound?Anybody got anymore info on that? Bernie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Interesting, Michael. I completely missed that one. Do you remember where you read it? --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 I think it was Marathon Man, but it might have been on here somewhere. I know it was a while back that I read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Thanks, Mike. I have to reread that book! I think I was so happy, I was half in "brain-freeze" when I read it the first time. --D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Nivan Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Somewhat related ...Are there horns in the outro of I Wanna Be With You?Never heard this mentioned on the board, not sure if it's in the book."K" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 Sure seems like it ... though you have to listen REAL close to pick them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamacote Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 .............i've always loved those "happy days" horns!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberries4ever Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I've just started reading "Marathon Man" and, yes, it does state (on page 88) that the first album was recorded twice. I LOVE the book, so far, and would highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't already read it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubbiefanMike Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 The Beatles had alot of so called throw away bad songs but if you listen to their Anthology Collection its all good. It would be nice to have a cd release of some Raspberries rarities. A musician is always their worst critic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 If that's true, Mike, (and I would definitely agree that it is), then Eric is the worst critic he could ever have. He has very high standards, but like most perfectionists, he holds himself to those that are humanly *impossible.* I do it, too, and it's not fun to be so perfectionistic.The real eye-opener for me was when he said he always hated his voice. Wow, that is the only statement of his I've ever heard that is so way-out-in-left-field, that I can't believe he said it. His voice has the most has the most luminous timbre and richest variety of tone colors I've ever heard.I wish that he could "switch off" his "violently" critical side. Like most perfectionists, his *worst* effort would surpass everyone else's *best.* The danger of extreme perfectionism is that it hangs up one's progress and literally paralyzes the perfectionist into not producing. I know, because I've experienced it. I'm trying to become less perfectionistic, but it's difficult. I find that when I "relax" my standards and put something out there whether I think it's ready or not, everyone still thinks it's amazing. This confuses me, because I always think it could have been better, but therein lies my problem. If I wait until *I* think I'm ready to put it out there, I never do it.I'm now forcing myself to "just do it" whether I'm ready or not, and not "overanalyze," and I'm finding that I *was* ready but didn't know it.Musicians and other self-critics out there should read "The Inner Game of Music" by Barry Green. It's 99% mental and only 1% physical technique/reality! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymooladi Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Darlene wrote:The real eye-opener for me was when he said he always hated his voice. Wow, that is the only statement of his I've ever heard that is so way-out-in-left-field, that I can't believe he said it. His voice has the most has the most luminous timbre and richest variety of tone colors I've ever heard.Darlene I couldn't agree with you more. I love Eric's voice. When I listen to music I listen to the voices first, then the music. Eric is a master at both. I totally enjoy listening to his voice, It's brilliant! It's a gift Eric.June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 One of my photography mentors, Monte Zucker (truly one of the greats in portraits)has a saying, "TFP". Yeh, you need the light right, the head tilted right, etc... but sometimes you just need to "TFP"... Take the Friggin' Picture! It may not be "perfect", but without it you got nothin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmichel Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 those who feel insecure with the voice they have are often driven to do the most with it...as Eric obviously has...whatever he started with, developed into one of the best pop voices ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlene Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Are you reading, Eric? I HOPE so! --Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Nivan Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 What about the stinkin' horns in IWBWY? "K" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 If you listen REALLY close at the very end in the fade out, you can hear horn stabs. At least that's what they appear to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill C Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I heard Eric was a big fan of Don Henley's Raspy voice thing. I think he tried to take some of the smoothness out of his voice. Just my recollection of something I read somewhere. I think he thinks his voice is too pretty. I understand where you're coming from on the perfectionist thing Darlene. My wife has been trying to get me to put together a CD of originals that I have written but I can't seem to "finalize" anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Nivan Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Thanks, Mike.I thought the "bump" might get somebody else's attention on the horns. it's not my impression that Raspberries used a lot of horns and I didn't see it mentioned in the book.I guess it will remain A Mystery!"K" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Somebody HAS to know the answer to this. Keith & I are in the "we gotta know!" mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trindy Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I remember reading in Ken Sharp's book one of them saying "We recorded the whole album over again because it was so sterile."And yes, those are absolutely horns in the outro of IWBWY. You can hear them during all the chorus repeats at the end if you listen carefully enough. Saxes up the yin-yang. There's even a horn arrangement credit on the back cover--and I don't think it's referring solely to that piccolo "Bach trumpet" on "I Reach For the Light." Uh-uh. Plenty of horns in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trindy Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Oh, and the above reference to "recording the whole album over again" was to the first, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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