BeatleJay Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 This has probably been covered plenty, but I never saw if it was.So GATW peaked at #5, right? What were some of the tunes that kept it from hitting #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I couldn't find the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, but these were the other songs on Cashbox from the same week:1 BABY DON’T GET HOOKED ON ME - Mac Davis2 BLACK AND WHITE - Three Dog Night3 EVERYBODY PLAYS THE FOOL - Main Ingredient4 MY DING-A-LING - Chuck Berry5 GO ALL THE WAY - Raspberries6 SATURDAY IN THE PARK - Chicago7 BEN - Michael Jackson8 BURNING LOVE - Elvis Presley9 USE ME - Bill Withers10 GET ON THE GOOD FOOT (pt. 1) - James BrownBernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early Wynn Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 While I'm not a fan of any of those other songs, the Raspberries are in some good company there...Elvis, Chuck Berry (the true king of Rock n Roll), James Brown, Chicago, Three Dog Night, the King of Pop, Mac Davis...wait a minute, Mac Davis had the #1 song????? Ugh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnniekNY Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I can't believe how much airplay "MY ding a ling" received....but i remember all those songsBUT i only owned 2 - GATW (no duh) and "Saturday in the park"great question, Jay! tell your beloved i say hi and send her a big kiss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecstasy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Our local station today listed them as:5. Go All The Way - Raspberries4. Backstabbers - O'Jays3. Everybody Plays the Fool - Main Ingredient2. Black and White - Three Dog Night1. Dont' Get Hooked On Me - Mac Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leff'tHome Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Kinda like the Oscars from years gone by when they mention who didn't win (and who did)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I rememer all those songs, and used to like a couple of them... but do any of them have the same "power" today as they did in '72 besides GATW? I think not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAM Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 My sentiments exactly. Black & White has some substance to it. The rest are just fluff! imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmichel Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I could see The Raspberries covering "Burning Love"...That actually might be pretty hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatleJay Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 I should have phrased the question... "What kind of crap was 1-4 when GATW hit #5?" just kidding, I like my ding a ling. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew C. Clark Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Week of September 23, 1972: (1) "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" - Mac Davis (1st week at # 1) (2) "Black & White" - Three Dog Night (3) "Saturday In The Park" - Chicago (4) "Back Stabbers" - The O'Jays (5) "Alone Again (Naturally)" - Gilbert O'Sullivan (6) "Ben" - Michael Jackson (7) "Everybody Plays The Fool" - The Main Ingredient (8) "Honky Cat" - Elton John (9) "Go All The Way" - Raspberries (10) "Rock And Roll Part 2" - Gary Glitter Week of September 30, 1972: (1) "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" - Mac Davis (2nd week at # 1) (2) "Black & White" - Three Dog Night (3) "Saturday In The Park" - Chicago (4) "Back Stabbers" - The O'Jays (5) "Ben" - Michael Jackson (6) "Everybody Plays The Fool" - The Main Ingredient (7) "Go All The Way" - Raspberries (8) "Use Me" - Bill Withers (9) "Burning Love" - Elvis Presley (10) "Popcorn" - Hot Butter Week of October 7, 1972: (1) "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" - Mac Davis (3rd week at # 1) (2) "Ben" - Michael Jackson (3) "Back Stabbers" - The O'Jays (4) "Everybody Plays The Fool" - The Main Ingredient (5) "Go All The Way" - Raspberries (6) "Use Me" - Bill Withers (7) "Burning Love" - Elvis Presley (8) "Black & White" - Three Dog Night" (9) "My Ding-A-Ling" - Chuck Berry (10) "Popcorn" - Hot Butter Week of October 14, 1972: (1) "Ben" - Michael Jackson (1st week at # 1) (2) "Use Me" - Bill Withers (3) "Everybody Plays The Fool" - The Main Ingredient (4) "Burning Love" - Elvis Presley (5) "Go All The Way" - Raspberries (6) "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" - Mac Davis (7) "My Ding-A-Ling" - Chuck Berry (8) "Nights In White Satin" - The Moody Blues (9) "Back Stabbers" - The O'Jays (10) "Popcorn" - Hot Butter Week of October 21, 1972: (1) "My Ding-A-Ling" - Chuck Berry (1st week at # 1) (2) "Use Me" - Bill Withers (3) "Burning Love" - Elvis Presley (4) "Everybody Plays The Fool" - The Main Ingredient (5) "Nights In White Satin" - The Moody Blues (6) "Ben" - Michael Jackson (7) "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" - Mac Davis (8) "Garden Party" - Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band (9) "Popcorn" - Hot Butter (10) "Go All The Way" - Raspberries By the way, the song "I Wanna Be With You" by The Raspberries debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 at # 77 back in November 25, 1972 (Matt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatleJay Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Thanks for the info everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Wow Matthew.... That's a lot of info... Interesting though. And some songs I had forgotten about.Muzza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspberrywine Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Its disturbing to think that Mac Davis might have kept GATW from reaching #1. It just proves its an absurd universe. Its almost as disturbing as imagining a Mac Davis cover of GATW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 More disturbing than that is while "Go All The Way" is dropping down the chart, "Popcorn" by Hot Butter is popping up! Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susana Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 But at least I don't think Hot Butter ever took themselves way too seriously as Mac Davis did... Boy, could Mellie and I ever go off on a rant on that one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trindy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 There are some fine songs on the list of those that kept GATW from #1. I have always loved "Everybody Plays the Fool," in part because I actually associate the song with GATW because my older sisters had copies of both 45s and played them back to back constantly. "Back Stabbers" is one of the Philly Soul classic tunes. "Burning Love" is one of the most fun songs Elvis ever did and the "hunk-a hunk-a burnin' love" line if nothing else will ensure it goes down in history (as if "the flames are now lickin' my body" wasn't enough). "Use Me" was pretty cool--in a way it was like GATW for men--"OK, so all my friends say you're just using me--well, you go right on ahead, honey!"However, how "Ben" and "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me" made it up there I will never know. Yes, "Ben," a tender love song...to a rat. And Mac Davis should have his portrait hung in the Songwriters' Hall of Shame for all eternity for these two lines alone: "Girl, you're a hot-blooded woman-child/And it's warm where you're touching me." Say it with me, everyone:EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Mississippi Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 You remember the exact day you heard the song for the first time? I know women can sometimes remember dates better than guys, but that seems just a little extreme! Remind me to never say something mean to you, 'cuz I know you'll never forget that I said it... or what I said... or the date, hour, minute and second! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspbernie Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Back in the good ol' days of vinyl Billboard did it like this:"Sales reports from retail outlets were taken over the telephone by Billboard staffers, who would ask store managers and clerks to rank singles via a point system. Other people in the Billboard chart depatrment would register airplay reports from key radio stations around the country. If a radio station listed a particular single at number one on its playlist, it would receive more points than a song ranked number two—even if the runner-up song was being played more often than the title in the pole position."In other words, radio airplay was determined by a sliding scale system that could easily be manipulated by the record companies who were willing to "invest" more when pushing their new single.As for record "sales" recorded by Billboard back then: their results were based on product "shipped" not "sold." In other words if, say, the record company wanted the horrible Bee Gees "Sgt. Pepper" sountrack LP to hit #1 on the Billboard charts, it would just ship a gazillion copies to retailers. A couple of months later those unsold albums would be marked down in the corner cut bin or sent off to the landfill.That's how a single like "All By Myself" stops ust short of #1, where it by all rights should have landed. The same is true for "Go All The Way."Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trindy Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Thanks for the insight, Bernie. I wonder if that's how the New York Times Bestseller List works, too...the more copies of the book shipped, the faster it goes up the chart...and then if a lot of the books get remaindered later, well, hey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Davie Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Bernie - I've ALWAYS loved your knowledge of the industry of the 'good old, bad old days'!Here's what I find interesting (amidst my disappointment GATW didn't go to #1):1. How often does Mac Davis ever come up in ANY conversations about 'the greatest musicians/bands/performers of all time'? NEVER!Although...he was a great country/pop songwriter for others including Elvis and Eddie Rabbit, and scored one for himself. He even had that TV show for a year (remember at the halfway mark, he'd write a verse & a chorus for a song on the SPOT to audience members?)2. Strength of a hit movie ALONG with a song - "Ben" - Michael Jackson 3. Not one but TWO instrumentals (and one hit wonders for the artists) were in the Top 10 - "Rock And Roll Part 2" and "Popcorn".4. The 'over the hill gang' (Elvis, Rick Nelson and Chuck Berry) still had a buying audience5. Finally, just like rock pioneer Johnny Cash with 'A Boy Named Sue', Chuckie B had to rely on a damn NOVELTY song to reach #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamacote Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 ....."it's warm where you're touchin' me"...........i get i bit snug in the shorts....is that wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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