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Big problem for Kelly! Clive will not do anything to support the album and it will tank, proving him right. I am afraid that this is a sad Catch 22.

Bernie

Not totally...

if it's not a PR move she might end up getting hold of her own musical path... whatever that may be...

whether or not this sells 1 million vs. 5 million ain't the big picture either... although that's usually what the dim media focuses on...

If she can keep a TRUE fanbase while making the album that's true to her heart, that's what matters in the end...

it seems that she knows it's make or break time for someone who has been a teen idol.....

if she wants to be a flash in the pan like far too many teen idols (Shaun Cassidy, Leif Garrett, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson) she'll follow Clive... and die

it's time to get some legs... and live

good for her

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I don't want EC to go dark on his posts, it's happened before when hassled, he is very articulate and combined with his tremendous insight, it makes for a great read. Also IMHO I think he has a great sense of humor.

Tip for Eric: Writing a long post? Start composing in Word. You can save, rearrange, etc. When done, THEN, highlight, right click, copy, and paste here.

Allows you to write half a post, save and think about it, prior to submission. I often compose in Word, then move it, less accidents ;-)

Steve

That's a great tip, thanks! And IA, I surely don't want Eric to stop posting ~ we truly enjoy his insights!! Thanks Eric for taking the time to post, I don't know any other artist that does that on his own site on such a regular basis, you rock! LuvLove
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It seems to me that these "screaming at the boyfriend" songs have probably run their course. If she's going to do another one, it should at least sound better. My least favorite initial divorce consultation is with a "20 something" young woman who I can just tell has worked herself up by listening to one of these songs on the way to the office. Unless there are kids involved, the guys don't seem to have the same intensity.

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CLIVE'S THE MAN, KELLY ADMITSJuly 24, 2007 -- THE war between Kelly Clarkson and Clive Davis ended yesterday with a full surrender by the "American Idol" winner.

"I'm well aware that Clive Davis is one of the great record men of all time," Clarkson posted yesterday on her Web site. "He has been a key advisor and has been an important force in my success to date."

The singer's submission came with the realization that her third album, "My December," is a turkey - just as Davis, the head of Sony BMG, predicted - having sold fewer than 450,000 copies in three weeks, and producing no hit singles after two attempts, "Never Again" and "Sober."

Davis, "the man with the golden ears" - after market-testing the album on unimpressed focus groups - had begged Clarkson to use some songs composed by experienced hit makers. But Clarkson insisted on using only her own songs.

The chubby-cheeked soprano attacked Davis in Blender magazine, saying she told him: "I get that you don't like my album. You're 80; you're not supposed to like my album." But her fans, who had bought 15 million copies of her first two albums, didn't like it either.

Last month, Clarkson's arena tour was cancelled because of slow ticket sales. She fired her manager, Jeff Kwatinetz, who co-produced "My December," and predicted the album would result in six hit singles.

"American Idol" judge Simon Cowell sided with Davis, who is actually 75, saying, "He's better at his age than 99 percent of the people in the music business in their 20s, 30s and 40s."

Clarkson acknowledged in her message yesterday: "[Davis] has also given me respect by releasing my new album when he was not obligated to do so. I really regret how this has turned out and I apologize to those whom I have done [a] disservice. I would never intentionally hurt anyone."

Insiders say Clarkson finally came to her senses after hiring a new manager, Narvel Blackstock, who is the husband and manager of Reba McEntire.

"Kelly found herself at the center of a damaging, misguided public controversy," said one source. "Blackstock found that Clive was right all along and was very concerned about the advice she was getting."

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I just finally picked up Kelly's CD a few days ago, and I have to say ~ I was expecting NOT to like it (with how so many have downplayed it, and commented that it's not like "Breakaway") ~ I was completely, totally blown away!

I recommend it highly!! There are a few stand outs, as always ~ for me (and these were pleasant surprises!) my faves are, "Sober", "One Minute", "Be Still", "Maybe", "Yeah", and one incredible chestnut in the bunch ~ "Irvine" ~ it's hauntingly beautiful and features incredibly insightful, lyrics during an obviously troubling, time, for Kelly. I can't get over the tremendous growth as an artist and writer, on this CD. If you aren't careful, you'll miss the mystery cut on the CD after "Irvine" ~ it's called "Chavis" (you have to wait two or so minutes once Irvine ends) ~ very much reminds you of a Janis Joplin style, bluesy, jazzy song. LOVE this CD!!!

I wish Kelly much success with this CD, I think there could easily be a Grammy Nod ~ JMHO! smilesmile

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OK, I just ran into this thread and read the whole thing at one sitting.

Amazing. In a seriously depressing sort of way.

I've encountered so many stories like this over the years and I have to wonder how they get away with even a fraction of the deceit that is a daily occurence in this "biz".

There are so many hurdles a musician has to jump even when focussing on the music alone -without- all the hideous political crap like the stories mentioned here. No wonder popular music is in such a bad state.

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Sadly, things have gotten worse in the biz since this thread was started. Warped tour? 55 bands? Almost nobody is getting paid, they used the gimmick of local band contests to fill the shows, and have only a handful of names they could book at bargain rates. And Ozzfest is a total hose. Free admission, but the bands are being forced to play free, so Ozzy can promote his new CD. Lamb Of God, the second billed act on the tour, got paid $350,000 a show at Ozzfest a year ago. This year $0. And they employ a 12 man crew they have to pay, and are hoping to sell enough merch to pay for it. As the one guitarist said in an interview, he may return to his old job putting roofs on houses, because he was making more money then.

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Hollies65, Cd sales are only a small part of a band's revenue,about .40 per copy sold, minus all expenses laid out on your behalf, like promotion, advertising, videos, etc. Most bands make a living off touring & merch, which is why the new trend is so disturbing. Bands will not make the money to tour, so why bother?

Prince actually pulled a genius move this year, he gave away his latest CD free with a Sunday paper in the UK. For his last major label release, he made $160,000. Just for the copies given away in the UK, he was paid $500,000. He plans to give away the CD free with every ticket sold for his upcoming tour.

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Hollies65, Cd sales are only a small part of a band's revenue,about .40 per copy sold, minus all expenses laid out on your behalf, like promotion, advertising, videos, etc. Most bands make a living off touring & merch, which is why the new trend is so disturbing. Bands will not make the money to tour, so why bother?

Prince actually pulled a genius move this year, he gave away his latest CD free with a Sunday paper in the UK. For his last major label release, he made $160,000. Just for the copies given away in the UK, he was paid $500,000. He plans to give away the CD free with every ticket sold for his upcoming tour.

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