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The New Official Raspberries Website


Eric Carmen

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So it can be fixed, there's an error on the Music page of the new site at http://www.raspberriesonline.com/music.shtml --- it lists the "Starting Over" album as coming out in 1973, when it actually came out in 1974.

Don Krider

Sorry about the date typo. Much of the production for the new site was done during the wee hours after working 12 hours days, so thank you for the keen eye. Please feel free to post any corrections/suggestions/feedback etc. over at raspberriesonline.com. Thanks! - Jim
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I understand Eric's sentiment, and Wally, Dave, and Jim's too; regarding the new website. Many of us here have expressed wishes that Scott had been a part of all this, but I accept the explanaition that Eric gave us regarding that. So there is no need to really give Scott a lot of space on the new site. At least "his" LP is pictured with the others...

At this point in time, most of us know what's gone on before, so dwelling on it does nobody any good. What we want to know is what's going on today and especially what's coming tomorrow!

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This discussion goes a long way toward proving that no matter what you do, you just can't please everyone. Just for the record, I'M THE ONE WHO ASKED SCOTT MCCARL TO JOIN THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE, REMEMBER? He sent me a tape and I loved it. I talked to him for the better part of a year on the phone and planned on producing him before things in the 'Berries went South and he ended up in the band. He's a super talent and a really, really nice guy and everyone in the current lineup likes him. The reunion happened because the talent booker at the Cleveland HOB thought it would be a coup if he could get the original four guys back together. Everything that's happened since started there. It was supposed to be a 'one-off" that just kept going. There has never been any effort to discount the contributions Scott and Mike made to the Starting Over album. They were huge. That's never been questioned. But, right now, the band is Wally, Dave, Jim and me. And that's what the new website is about. ec

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The creation of a Raspberries "promotional" website is a *huge* development in the scheme of things! It speaks volumes about the intention and the commitment of all four Raspberries original bandmembers.

Of course they would include the "Starting Over" album, because it's part of Raspberries' history. They're not trying to "erase" that album nor minimize that part of the band's history.

For those of us who loved the band from the beginning, the miracle is that Eric, Wally, Jim and Dave kept the original love for the music they made together and fought the odds to bring the band back. Now *that's* an exciting story, and the new website is the newest chapter of what's to come! That's pretty glorious from my point of view.

smile --Darlene

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Eric:

Thanks so much for the kind words about Scott McCarl. He's a Great guy and Super talented songwriter and singer.

I met Scott and Wally for the first time in LA on February 7, 1998. It was Scott's "Play On" CD release party at the Dragonfly Club. Part of a week long Poptopia Festival that featured over 100 bands. I flew in from Minnesota to attend the Concert and videotaped the entire Show. We've been good friends ever since.

I think I can sum up some Raspberries Fans feelings about the Starting Over band. It seems like Raspberries has been divided into 2 camps. The Original band; which since the Reunion has taken on a "sacred status" almost to the point where the Starting Over band has been totally forgotten. Whether some fans and musicians want to admit it or not? "Starting Over" was the BEST Raspberries album (IMHO) and Rolling Stone magazine's opinion in 1974. It pains me to see this calculated devision and exclusion of Scott McCarl and Michel McBride.

I saw the RASPBERRIES Starting Over Tour in 1974 play at the Brown County Fair (in New Ulm, MN; my hometown). Before that gig: Raspberries were considered "tenny boppers" and "bubblegum". After that incredible Concert: RASPBERRIES were a serious Live act that became my favorite band. (Memo to Eric: I was ONE of the Fans that got the music and the image back in 1974). I also saw the Eagles perform in the Summer of 1974. RASPBERRIES "blew the Eagles away". With a high energy melodic rocking Concert. Propelled by Wally Bryson's "electrifying" lead guitar, Scott McCarl's thumping bass and vocals (on Play On); Michael McBride's "crashing drums (Overnight Sensation) and Eric Carmen's stylistic piano, rhythm guitar and soaring lead vocals. You guys were my favorite band. Since that time I saw Eric Carmen on his 1st Solo Tour in 1976; which was incredible. Eric opened for SWEET and proceeded to "blow them off the stage" with a tight rocking set. He even played Raspberries "Starting Over" and "Go all the Way" to the crowds deight. I've see Scott and Wally play together in Cleveland 1998 and Chicago in 2000. I witnessed the FANTASTIC Reunion Concert's at the House of Blues in Chicago 2005 and Taste of Summer in Waukesha, WI 2005.

So I've seen the Original and Starting Over RASPBERRIES LIVE! Guess what: I LOVE THEM BOTH and I think every RASPBERRIES Fan should too!

Even if Scott and Michael are NOT part of the current band: their contributions and legacy ENHANCES the overall image of RASPBERRIES as a BAND to this day.

Don

Eric Carmen wrote:

This discussion goes a long way toward proving that no matter what you do, you just can't please everyone. Just for the record, I'M THE ONE WHO ASKED SCOTT MCCARL TO JOIN THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE, REMEMBER? He sent me a tape and I loved it. I talked to him for the better part of a year on the phone and planned on producing him before things in the 'Berries went South and he ended up in the band. He's a super talent and a really, really nice guy and everyone in the current lineup likes him.

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I'm a fan who has always loved the music of and supported and attended performances of both batches of Berries and Eric's solo appearances whenever I could. I loved Scott's and Michael's performances and celebrated their talents as much as I did the other four bandmembers. I probably spent more time talking to Scott than I did anyone else in those days, and just a few years ago he gave me invaluable help and advice about copyright. He's a wonderful guy as well as an extremely talented musician. And it truly saddens me that Michael doesn't play anymore, because he is a fantastic drummer. Starting Over is an amazing album.

Although boardmembers have their favorites (different opinions make the world go round), I haven't seen divisiveness or negativity here. At any rate, we can all agree that what's happened since November 26, 2004 is the stuff dreams are made of.

smile --Darlene

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Thanks for that Bernie. For those of you who have had the privelege of meeting and knowing the members of the band personally I appreciate your views. However, there is a lot of us who have never had that chance but we love the Rasberries music no matter who was in the band at the time.

Please dont spoil that for us by trying to introduce personalities and who is better than who and when. After all without the music there is no Raspberries or us fans, but it is the guys in whatever combinations who have brought us the magic and joy of the music....The Music... lets have more of it..

Muzza

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Susan,

The band broke up in '75. The next event was the reunion in 2004. Eric's solo career from '75 through today is pretty well documented here at EC.COM. Scott and Michael joined the group in 1974, so their stint with Eric and Wally is highlighted in the 1974-75 section of the timeline. Re-read that section to fill in the blanks in your homework assignment :-)

Bernie

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So the new Raspberries website is ONLY about bandmembers that played on the 1st, Fresh and Side 3 albums...and bandmembers that played on the Reunion Tour of 2004-2005? If it's only about the Original/Reunion band; why show a photo of the "Starting Over" album?

Don

The reason is this: Both Wally and Eric played on "Starting Over", and both Wally and Eric also are original members along with Jim and Dave. As Eric mentioned, the new site is focused on recent events and what's happening "now". It's primary role is not one of a nostalgic site which would be more focused on what Raspberries have already done. The site is focused on the current line-up which includes all four-original members who re-lit the fire, resoundingly so, commencing with the reunion tour. I also tend to think it might have been more appropriate and respectful to present this debate over on the message board at raspberriesonline.com .

Granted, the site is new and there's not as much of an audience for various gripes and debates, but nonetheless, a more appropriate forum. It's a bit unfair and disrespectful to Eric to keep hammering this issue here.

- Jim

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Well said Jim.

A living breathing current website is not only interesting and useful, but not uncommon as well.

I tripped on over to eaglesband.com, and the site is dominated by the current touring line-up, in fact that's the only pictues on the site. You can fish around for an occasional reference, but it's clearly about the current line-up.

It doesn't dismiss what Felder's guitar added to many albums, Leadon's banjo work, or Misner's vocals on one of their biggest singles ever.

Nobody gives them a hard time and they are toruing with only 2 founding members, while the Raspberries boast the original founding line-up even.

When I see a lot of bands from the past advertising a show at a nearby casino I often stop in at their website, not to learn all about the past or their 1974 line-up or hit album, which I already know, but rather what's happening today, and who is in the current touring line-up, good or bad.

To me it's a complete non-issue. The history of the Raspberries is well documented. I look at this site as welcome, additional, current piece of information to add to the well documented Raspberries history.

Steve

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I hope I didn't come across as critical of the site by the way, cos it's a great site, and serves the current (& original) band brilliantly. I only really meant to point out that Scott and Mike couldn't really be compared to John (without meaning offence to John), and that fans would naturally be interested in that, but of course accepting completely that the new site is about the current lineup, understandably. That's the thing about forums I suppose; if you're gonna have a forum then you have to let us fans go on and on and on about the people we're fanatical about, which in the case of The Raspberries often means all 6 members from both lineups.

Hopefully everyone's at least clear on the history facts though, hehe.

Thanks again Eric for taking the time (which must often infuriate you) to deal with us. You're a very patient man.

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Bernie, Can I use you in the bibliography of my Raspberries homework?

Now let me get this straight... You're not going to mention Jon Bon Jovi or Little Steven in your timeline, even though they saw Raspberries in New York and I heard them singing along. Does that make them part of the band, and if so, shouldn't they get some credit on the new site? Jeeeeez.

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The new site just doesnt do it for me at all: The color scheme of the VOX amp is wrong, the graphics are too bright, the print is too small for my stigmatism, I see no photo of Jimmy Ienner's teeth, and to top that photographic evidence that Wally has gotten a haircut!! ( insert sarcasm, facetiousness). Com on people, cut the negativity the site is cool as hell, it really looks great. In terms of past history, the site also didnt include a mention of the War of 1812 or any comments on the 1968 Cleveland Indians pitching staff. Get a life, how nice to have a site dedicated to the orginal group who delivered such inspired concerts last year and my guess is wont become a platform for singular points of view.

Its a great addition to Raspberries lore.

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