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  1. hollies65, I never said I was the final authority. My point exactly. I'm not. The Constitution is. And The Bill of Rights and what it says is right and wrong for America to do is not a matter of "opinion" when it comes to imprisoning people who haven't been accused of anything and have had no access to legal counsel. It's all spelled out pretty clearly right there. Don't need to teach a course in constitutional law to tell you that...although our president did teach one. He seems to agree with me. What can I say? Sheesh...some of you people, if you lived back in the 19th century, would probably be saying "Slavery isn't so horrible...I mean, the slaves get all their meals and clothing and housing and health care for free...they probably live higher on the hog than I do...what's the big deal?" You'd miss the whole point about the issue being the morality of owning another human being. Really, whether Gitmo is hell or Club Med is beside the point. People are being detained for no cause. THAT is the point. And they've been tortured, which is against this country's moral values, provides no useful information, and endangers our own people abroad. If I kept you a prisoner in my house, and wouldn't let you out, the fact that I might give you nice meals and let you read and watch TV and listen to music and do whatever you wanted to do so long as you stayed within my house would be beside the point. The point would be that I had confined you in my house, and I would have no right to do that. Period.
  2. Oh, and let me also add: Some people on this board really should read--or reread--the Constitution.
  3. I cannot believe some of the stubborn conservative ideology I see posted on this board. Someday, eyes will be opened, I guess. Until then...
  4. Songs mentioned here recently that are on my iPod: Star Baby Hang Fire (speaking of the Stones, I’m also very fond of "Happy") I'm Doing Fine Now So Very Hard to Go Nice to Be With You Another one is my personal favorite rendition of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," by…Robert John! Oh, and I would add to the Cliff Richard thread that "Devil Woman" was big in the USA before "We Don’t Talk Anymore." About '75 I first became aware of Richard as this guy who had been a huge British star back in the '50s but up to that time he'd never had a hit in the States…I had bought a British coffee-table book on rock music year by year from the closeout bin of a bookstore (because it had a picture of the 'Berries in it!), and he figured largely in it, although I'd not heard of him up to that point…it was interesting when he had hits later…but so weird, because aside from "Devil Woman" in '76 and then that little flurry of hits in '79-'80, that was it for him… I've got quite a few Guess Who songs on the iPod, actually, one of them being one I discovered only on XM, "Sour Suite." It's one of the songs I like to listen to when I’m really depressed. Genius…For fun, I also like "Clap for the Wolfman."
  5. John's giving new meaning to the name "Lovey"!
  6. I loved LC's take on this, myself. And I'd love to hear Eric's stories too. I guess I look at it like this, Eric. When you get to know critics, and you get to know that some criticism from some sources is politically motivated, doesn't that actually make it easier to let it roll off your back? Doesn't it make it easier to "consider the source" and let it go? I am absolutely sure that your work has been reviewed by those who never had any intention of liking it in the first place--and I even remember how my young little heart used to be wrenched out by some of those reviews! And it's got to be annoying to see people like that assigned to review your work time after time...and yeah, maybe some of them didn't even attend the performances they panned! The question I have, I guess, is whether critics really have as much career-killing power as you assign to them. Maybe they did more so back in the day when music wasn't fairly cheap and easy for people to listen to themselves and decide whether or not they liked it. But today, damn...I can listen to 10 seconds of a song on iTunes, or go to a store and listen to any of the tracks on a CD in headphones, and decide for myself whether or not I like something, and if I do, critics be damned...I'm not waiting for some reviewer to give me an idea of whether I "should" like something or not. I'd rather listen for myself. The most a critic can do is whet my appetite or maybe sour it a bit, but that doesn't mean I might not listen to something anyway and like it. To me, the reviewers of the 'Berries in The Cleveland Scene are not worth the effort it would take to strangle them. I doubt most other people think so either. I just see the majority of reviewers at that level as posturing hip wannabes who won't be caught dead liking some band that hasn't received the "stamp of approval for hipness" from some area well outside Cleveland (because one of the basic rules of many Clevelanders is: If it's from Cleveland, it is by definition NOT COOL unless someone from New York or Los Angeles says it is. THEN it's cool). They're also all about 20 years younger than me, with a sense of music history that probably doesn't go back any further than the death of Kurt Cobain, which happened when they were wee tiny lads and was the first tragic event they can remember in their young lives. In short...I really don't give a damn what they think, and I don't waste time worrying about it. I don't know, maybe that's easy for me, vs. being you trying to sell tickets to a show in Cleveland. It just seems to me that when it comes to the 'Berries, anyway, you will never have to depend on these guys to sell your tickets. How many other local bands have the out-of-town draw the 'Berries have? How many are cited as inspirations the way you guys are? If I were you, I'd think of that--not worry about what some snotty 20something guy, whose musical taste is in his mouth, says about you in Scene Magazine.
  7. I mentioned this once, many moons ago, when I first discovered it. It's not so much a portrait as a piece of abstract art, with gigantic raspberries in it, and a little blurb on Eric. It's in the seating area for the prepared foods, just like a similar one devoted to Lyndhurst's other claims to fame, Charles F. Brush (for whom Eric's high school was named--inventor of the arc light) and another for someone whose name escapes me now but who I'll probably feel really silly for not remembering.
  8. I remember the first time I saw Bert Convy sing ABM on a talk show. I think that was the first inkling I had that this wasn't going to be just any "ordinary" hit song. But even I'm surprised by its longevity. Which reminds me: this weekend, the '70s on 7 Sirius XM channel replayed Casey Kasem's American Top 40 show from New Year's Day 1977, running through the top 50 hits of 1976. ABM clocked in at #40.
  9. I remember the first time I saw that. Pretty funny.
  10. Just saw the "Make Me Lose Control" video tonight on their "2009 for 2009" marathon special. Eric, remind us, who was the Blonde in the T-Bird again...the producer's girlfriend?
  11. I have to laugh at the story of the "Swiss Miss." Reminds me of a certain fan of my favorite skater who some of the other fans and I used to refer to amongst ourselves as "The Yodeler" because at every show he skated in Toronto or Hamilton, Ontario, we could always tell she was there, even in a huge arena. Because every time he was announced, and after he skated, she'd let forth this series of very distinctive "YIPYIPYIP"s you could hear through the entire arena during the applause...I actually met her once at a reception and she was really very nice. But I had to laugh, thinking I was meeting "The Yodeler" in person at last. As for memorable mishaps at Eric's shows, the one I will never forget (and maybe you remember this, Eric) is the Music Hall show on November 17, 1977, when one of your guitar straps broke and the guitar fell right on your toe. There was complete silence, and then you said, very pointedly, "OW!" That was the night I heard "Boats" live...ah, heaven...
  12. Wow, Eric, you should sue that Joe Hardy. Taking credit for your song! Shame on him...!
  13. The Hollies look like they all have prom dates...in about 1975. Of course, the sixties was also the day when no one laughed at the "matching suits" concept...it worked when Brian Epstein did it with the Beatles...
  14. I was listening to the Sirius XM Little Steven's Underground Garage channel on my last day at work this week, Tuesday, waiting for Kid Leo's show to come on at 4 p.m. Imagine my delight when his choice of opening song was none other than "Ecstasy"! (It was spelled really weirdly on the radio display, too. So weirdly I can't even remember how. I think it even had an X in it!) Great way to kick off the show. And who else but Kid Leo...
  15. I think my favorites were the oldest Raspberries song ("Lemon Go Lightly") and the newest ("House of Blues Blues"). Hey, we wanted new Raspberries music, and we got it! That was a riot!!! Thanks, Bernie!
  16. Predictions about the end of the world have existed since about, oh, I don't know, the second day of the world? They're all a bunch of garbage.
  17. "when the messenger becomes more important than the message, they both lose their value" I believe that is as true of artists as of critics. As for whether or not one makes judgmental statements in posts, we will be judged not by what we say we do in that department, but by what we actually do. I'll be the first to admit I say judgmental things online--and I'm not ashamed of it either. Eric's description of how disheartening it can be for an artist to pour his heart into his music and have it be critiqued by "someone who hasn't really stood for anything, doesn't have a background of defining excellence, but is doing a 'job'" made a significant assumption about the critic that I thought was worth addressing. Why assume that the critic "hasn't really stood for anything"? Why assume that the critic "doesn't have a background of defining excellence"? Why assume that the critic is just a failed artist looking to vent his frustrations upon successful or would-be successful artists? While it's comforting to tell oneself that and use it as a justification for discounting a critical opinion, it's not always the case. So, that was the thought I tossed into the mix...spoken with no disrespect for anyone involved. To do something creative and to release it to the public is to risk being critiqued, by everyone from serious and thoughtful critics to envious and vengeful hacks. The trick is in knowing the difference, and in having a thick enough skin to be able to deal with the hacks without making your hide so tough that the thoughtful comments don't penetrate. It's got to be a hard balance to find!
  18. No, sorry, no hits there. Good try, though, Wim, but I know the Major Lance song and that's not it. Also, like I said, think FEMALE vocal.
  19. Must confess, no I don't remember 'A Young Girl' by Noel Harrison, 'Love Love Love Love Love' by Terry Knight, or 'She Ain't Lovin You No More' by Distant Cousins. Maybe I'm too young?
  20. Barbara, I'm still not sure how you draw from what I have said that my comments "don't respect what professionals (in their own respective fields) go through everyday to raise the bar ... to strive for excellence." I fully respect that professionals do try to raise the bar and strive for excellence. However, I would argue equally that so do many critics. They are not all in it just to throw their weight around and ruin someone's career for the sake of wielding their power, any more than all professional performers are out there just trying to come up with a cheap gimmick to make a buck. I think my viewpoint encompasses the entire spectrum out there and acknowledges that many performers really lay it on the line and criticism by someone who is just trying to cut them down hurts. (Then again, I think if I were one of them, criticism from someone who was good and sincere and truly meant it would hurt more than criticism from some easily dismissible hack.) I would agree that when the messenger becomes more important than the message, they both lose their value. But there are messengers who have become important because of the power of their messages. That deserves some respect, too. In case anyone thought this was too lengthy, I can sum it up in one sentence, too: "I don't believe all critics can or should be dismissed as egototical hacks, any more than I believe all artists should be dismissed as egotistical hacks--it's too facile a way to dismiss them when, in some cases, they might be telling a painful truth." Hope this helps.
  21. Thank you, Eric, for the fashion education. Too funny. As for The Hives...even funnier! I wonder if anyone will ever ask them where they got the "matching suits" idea from. Maybe they'll say "Well, there was this guy Eric Carmen..." Never forget, folks: when the Raspberries wore those white suits with black shirts on the cover of "Fresh," everyone laughed, but when John Travolta wore it in "Saturday Night Fever," every guy wanted to! They were just ahead of their time, is all!
  22. hollies65, if you were paying too much attention to the length, I can break it up into chapters for you if you like...however, I'm sure that if you found it too boring to read as a big chunk, you'd find it equally boring broken up into small pieces. As for Barbara LV, rest assured, "this person" never meant to imply that it was a "badge of honor" to disagree with Eric. My comment about "all heck breaking loose" was meant as a joke. And there's no "self importance" involved. I did feel the need to elaborate on my opinion because of one particular poster who implied that I was being "disrespectful" by expressing it. And yes, that made me wonder: what was meant by "disrespect"? Is it "disrespecting" someone to disagree with his or her opinion? I don't think so. I'm glad you don't either!
  23. I'm not talking about what's around his neck...I mean the white belt... Full Cleveland = white shoes and white belt Half Cleveland = one or the other Please note, I have no idea where this term came from, nor can I actually recall having seen anyone IN or FROM Cleveland actually wearing such fashion, except for my father once, who showed up for the high school graduation of one of my sisters in 1972 in white shoes. However, although he is from Cleveland, it should be noted that he committed this fashion crime AFTER moving to Georgia AND that all of us back home who saw him in the shoes were mortified. And no one had even come up with this term for it yet. So, I find it rather amusing that while I keep maintaining to outsiders that you will never actually find a Clevelander wearing what the rest of the world calls a "Full Cleveland" or "Half Cleveland," well, there's Eric, proving me wrong...
  24. OK, what are my favorite obscure hits, or songs, or whatever? Well, here are a few. I've decided to stick to either ones I didn't even hear back when they were out but only discovered later, thanks to either XM or Internet radio, or ones that XM reminded me of that I had otherwise completely forgotten. Without further ado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfkBwFyXgs (You thought "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" was going to embarrass me? I discovered this as an ADULT and decided I liked it!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mj2TPuXjEs&feature=related My favorite Bill Haley song. Who needs "Rock Around the Clock"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1v529a2F-I&feature=related This version isn't by the Vince Guaraldi Trio, but it gives you the idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC45NEQutiE McGuinn, Clark & Hillman...a really crappy video, but I present it (although there's a live version from "The Old Grey Whistle Test" also posted) because dammit, I want an MP3 of this and I want you all to hear why. Anybody know where I can get one?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzo_l_u-p8 OK, so this probably wasn't Top 40...maybe that's why I never recall having heard it or seen the video once in the '80s, but I heard it on an '80s Internet station and fell in love with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyeC9mSWV-w I also desperately want an MP3 of this (all I have is a .wmv), although half the genius in this one is in its extremely kitschy early-'80s video that got huge rotation on MTV back when they only had about three videos to play that weren't just concert footage. Speaking of "footage"...Todd and his buddies have plenty here. Don't know what I love about it most...the Deely Bobbers on their heads, the shoes on their feet, their wonderful "house" with bottlecap stools, cigar-band wall art, etc., or their propensity for kicking each other in the butt. Oh, I guess when all is said and done, my favorite part is when they're lying in the sink. Too funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUsHC7OYOtA Get this vintage 1969 "music video." See, there IS something more embarrassing than liking Wham! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5cCWbzz15c Another one I once liked and forgot about, until I heard it on the soundtrack of the movie "The Full Monty." Don't worry, everyone here is fully clothed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DC3lfPOdfA Hearing this one again after many years was like waking up from amnesia. Funny how you can completely forget something you liked so much and then it all comes back like a rush. Thanks, XM, for how you used to play that "IT" special every year with all those old hits from the 1930s to the present. Too bad that now that The Merger has happened, we may never hear it again. Do these revive a few memories?
  25. This is a fascinating thread. I still like “Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go.†So kill me. Never realized Michael Penn made a record! Or, if I did, I forgot... Never heard “No Time to Lose†or “Not Too Long Ago†or “Wait a Minute†or “Yesterday Man†or any of Wim’s. Steve, I don’t recall the ones you posted being big hits in Cleveland…when? Strangely enough, “Walkin’ My Cat Named Dog†gets airplay on the ‘60s on 6 channel on Sirius XM, which is where I heard it first, back in the pre-merger XM days. I had never heard it before that, but it gets requests. As for most of the other songs mentioned, they get regular play on the ‘60s on 6 and ‘70s on 7 channels—the ones from that era, anyway. I love “Sweet City Woman,†always reminds me of my childhood. Also, here in Cleveland our local TV movie hosts Big Chuck and Lil’ John immortalized it by making it background music for their show. And Bob is not kidding about Benny Mardones (I didn’t know he was originally from Cleveland) and his bizarre superstar status in Syracuse. I spent a good lot of my college life there and part of it was during the time “Into the Night†came out (although it was actually a summer hit). For some reason Syracusans in particular glommed onto that song big-time, and while the rest of the world thinks of Benny Mardones as a one-hit wonder, in Syracuse he is a god. They might not notice Paul McCartney walking down Salina Street, but Benny Mardones would be mobbed!
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