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  1. After the release of Raspberries album Side 3 in 1973, it became apparent that artistically, there was a fraction in the ranks…With the lack of sales for the lp, Raspberries were at a crossroads…Ultimately, the band splintered with Eric and Wally continuing to carry the Raspberries monicker with two new members while Dave and Jim quit to form their own band(Dynamite)… Recently, I discovered a tv documentary, that chronicles the breakup and am proud to offer it here for your enjoyment… —————————————————— ”In early 1974, after lackluster sales for their last album,the group had a meeting to discuss their future… “Guys, we have to do something…Capitol is not doing us justice…In reviewing our contract, we have a clause that we can cancel our deal and go off on our own…We need to find someone who has enough money to back us so we can self-promote ourselves in an effective way…Any ideas?” “My dad has a friend that is an investment banker and he has some clients that are looking to invest in a musical act…I can have my dad call him and get the ball rolling…Is that okay with everybody? “absolutely “yes” “SURE”… Jim’s dad makes the call and explains the situation to his friend… MR. DRYSDALE-““Okay, Mr. Bonfanti…I have set it all up…My client will call the kids and let’s see if we can make this happen…” —————————————————— A FEW DAYS LATER, MR .DRYSDALE GETS TOGETHER WITH HIS CLIENTS AND AFTER EXPLAINING THE SITUATION, THE INVESTORS DECIDE TO CALL THE BAND AND SET UP A MEETING…”who wee…Well, you guys can come by the house tomorrow and play us some of that sweet Raspberries music…And bring your appetite…Granny will rustle up some possum and other tasty viddles for you boys… …” The next day, the boys showed up at the address… and are greeted at the gate… “Who the heck is this Motley Cru”?… “we’re not Motley Cru…We’re the Raspberries…” “Oh granny, put that gun down and grab them there viddles you cooked up mighty special…Come on in guys…” “Wowie…They sure are purdy…” “Oh, calm down Ellie…I never seen you this excited since granny filled that mailman’s ass full of buckshot after he joked about making a “special delivery into your mailbox”…but that’s enough of that…I got an idea… “Let’s skip the possum and start listening to some good Ol’ music… The Raspberries agreed and launched into their first number… “”Yikes…What the hell was all that noise?…Sounds like when I was rustling up those rascals and throwing them in the boiling pot of water to get them nice and tender…Same yelping as that stuff… “Fellas, that ain’t the kinda music we is acquainted with…Don’t you have any good ole down home country music?” “Now, that’s something we would invest in”…Do we have a deal?”… “We’ll let you know…Thanx…” ——————————————————When the boys get back to Cleveland, the pivotal moment has arrived… “Guys, we are a rock band, not a country band…” “I say we take the offer…We are not getting anywhere with rock, so let’s go “country”… “If you think I am gonna go out on stage every night, dressed in overalls and looking like an itinerant farm worker, you’re nuts” … “Well, it’s better than dressing like we’re gay and playing for little girls…I quit”… “I’m with you, Dave…Let’s form our own group… —————————————————— With that turn of events, Wally and Eric recruited two new members Scott Mccarl and Mike McBride…… Jim decided that his and Dave’s new group needed some money and a name, so they called Mr. Drysdale again for his help… “Well, unfortunately, the Hilbilly’s have lost interest, but I have another client to try, but he wants total control …He even wants to pick out a name for you guys…Here’s his phone number…He will be waiting for your call tomorrow…” —————————————————— The next day, Dave and Jim called their new investor and gave up total control, even letting him name the band… And that’s how it all went down…
    6 points
  2. That run of shows between 2004 and 2007 was some kind of time-warp for me. Obviously, you don't have any say about when you were brought into this world. I'd have to agree with Paul Williams, though; "...like an old familiar poem that just won't rhyme, you can get back to the place but not the time...". The 1972 through 1977 Raspberries/Eric period can be encapsulated by just one phrase- 'the 70's'. Either you were there, or you weren't. The reunion shows brought much of the same music to a different time and a different place, often with better sound. Yet, the 'double 00's' brought an entirely different world with it. That the reunion shows could make me feel like I was revisiting my 70's self, if for only a couple hours at a time, is a testimony of how timeless their music is. It may be as close as I'll ever come to stepping into a time machine. The great equalizer was getting to spend time with the band and their families, getting to meet and make new friends, the sound checks and after show parties, and a whole lot more. Don't ask me to pick one era or the other. It's just one (very big) chapter in my life:)
    6 points
  3. Facebook says today is Kirk's birthday. So, Happy Birthday, Kirk! Unless it's fake news...then I'll move this thread to "Cartoon World." 😆
    5 points
  4. What a great night it was to finally meet so many board members in person and of course the band. I had not seen them since 1973 in person and it was completely surreal when they took the stage. Mind blowing, actually. Let’s have a 20th anniversary show of the reunion show, boys! (I know, I know. I can dream can’t I?)
    5 points
  5. Bump, baby. 18th anniversary! Wow!!!
    5 points
  6. I've discovered that both my husband (songwriter - ASCAP) and I (publisher - music industry professional) can join this org and thus maybe have a small say-so in getting EC recognized this way. https://www.songhall.org/join
    5 points
  7. When LC is posting, the board hops. The dude has got IT. Happy Birthday LC !
    4 points
  8. Wishing you great happiness and joy on your birthday and hope that your girls spoiled you rotten! This must be the official Moderators' Birthday Celebration Week!!! Party on, LC... Party on, Kirk!!!! 🥳🧁🍰🎁🎂🎈🎉
    4 points
  9. Sad, sad news. She was an integral part of Fleetwood Mac going back to 1970, when she was Christine Perfect. I know there are people who had to compare her to Stevie and Lindsey, but to me, that's just flat-out silly. Just as Lennon and McCartney were geniuses who made each other better, so too were McVie, Nicks, and Buckingham. Any Christine playlist reflects her pop songwriting brilliance: • pure pop classics like "Don't Stop," "Think About Me," and "Say You Love Me"; • beautiful and sometimes moody ballads like "Over My Head," "Warm Ways," "Songbird," and "Brown Eyes"; • and upbeat numbers like "You Make Loving Fun." And then there's the best of all her songs, "Over and Over" — such a killer track that Fleetwood Mac chose it to lead of the two-LP set Tusk. R.I.P. Christine. 😞
    4 points
  10. Sad news, for sure. Feel lucky that I nabbed a ticket to see the full Fleetwood Mac band reunion a few years ago. She sounded great that night at the Garden. RIP, songbird.
    4 points
  11. and I don't care who saw me.😂♥️
    4 points
  12. Back when the Tonight You’re Mine album came out, I was at a sales meeting for my distributor…Before, the meeting started, I was singing “Sleep With Me,” and the guy in front of me turns around and yells out “no thanks”…Everybody in the room started to laugh and I felt like an idiot(normal)…Never forgot that moment…
    4 points
  13. The early 90's wasn't too bad UNTIL the Seattle grudge & alternative rock came in late 1991 (including Nirvana that spoiled it)!!
    4 points
  14. This was quite an extraordinary day for me, LC. Famous celebrity photographer David LaChapelle shot this photo in Los Angeles in 2000. Elton was in town recording what would become his "Songs from the West Coast" album. It was my idea to have an all-white set: room, piano, glass of milk with Elton wearing a very brightly colored outfit. My copywriting partner supplied the headline tying the Elton John hit song title to the ad's message about osteoporosis. David added some extra touches like the white cake, chandelier and cow sculptures. The day we were scheduled to shoot, Elton's people called to let us know he worked late in the studio the night before and would need to postpone a day, so we wrapped and came back the next day. That day, another call came that Elton just simply couldn't make it, "Let's try tomorrow," they said. Keep in mind, these postponements cost lots of money. We had a full crew and a rented studio with a fully-built set ready for action. Not to mention a truckload of lighting and camera equipment, stylists, makeup artists, etc. Everyone was getting paid to sit around and do nothing. These were expensive photoshoots costing hundreds of thousands of dollars! At this point, David—who is a good friend of Elton's—tells me a story about another photoshoot he did with him. MasterCard was sponsoring Elton's tour that year and wanted some publicity shots for an advertising campaign. When Elton came to the set, he only had time to pose for a few frames, saying, "You've got your photos. I have to go now." When the MasterCard advertising manager complained, Elton told her to shove her complaint somewhere—the location I'll keep private, but use your imagination. On the third day we got devastating news, "Elton is not going to be able to make it." David told me he didn't think Elton was making these decisions himself and we needed to get past his "people." David told me Elton collected Jeff Koons dog sculptures, so he had one of his assistance purchase something at a nearby gallery and send it to Elton with a note that said, "Sorry we couldn't work things out for the photoshoot. If anything in your schedule changes, we're all ready for you." Mere moments after Elton received the gift, David's phone rings. It's Elton. "David! Thank you so much for your very thoughtful gift. I didn't know we had a photoshoot scheduled for today. I'll be right over." Seriously...this happened. Ever since we started the milk campaign, each celebrity's mustache was created live on the set with a glass brought up to their lips. Real milk on lips. Oh, we added some other dairy products—ice cream, yogurt, cream cheese—to the concoction to allow it to last longer than a real milk mustache so we didn't have to keep applying it too often. But we never added mustaches using Photoshop or any other post-effect. After hearing David's MasterCard story I just wanted to get a photo of Elton on that set so I'd have an ad. I told David, "Don't worry about the mustache this time. The minute Elton gets here, just get him in front of your camera so I can have an ad to run." He agreed. We'd make it as painless as possible. Elton arrived. He loved the concept and picked the magenta polka dot outfit himself from a few Gianni Versace combos pre-selected for him to choose from. He got onto set and David started snapping away. Then, all of a sudden...Elton stops and shouts, "Hold on. HOLD ON!" "Here it comes," I thought. "He's going to tell me where to shove my idea." Instead, Elton asks, "Where's my milk mustache?" True story. Not only did Elton pose for hundreds of photos. He asks what David was doing for lunch and David told him he was having lunch catered at the studio for the crew. So Elton asks, "Can I join you?" Elton sits right next to David and I sit directly across from him at the table. Yes. I had lunch with Elton John. It was an off-the-cuff, unguarded, unrehearsed and uncensored Elton...the one that doesn't appear on talk shows. Some of the stories he told had me laughing my ass off. Not only is he a remarkable talent, but he is a sweet, funny, endearing man— who has a genuine knack for telling a story. Yeah, I worked a job like everyone else. But my job was unlike everyone else's.
    4 points
  15. Interesting article. There are so many different categories where I would have pegged EC. But the glaring one missed here is "singer songwriter". As we on this website here know, no way is he a "one off"?!?! 🙄 😲
    3 points
  16. REVIEWS ARTFUL DODGER – THE COMPLETE COLUMBIA RECORDINGS MARCH 22, 2017 TONY PETERS Unsung heroes of power pop It’s baffling how some bands make it, and some don’t. Artful Dodger is one of rock’s biggest head-scratchers. They had a treasure trove of radio-ready songs, a killer frontman, a producer with a proven track record, and the backing of a major label. Despite all this going for them, the band never had a hit single or even an entry on the Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart. Real Gone Music has just collected the first three albums of this under-appreciated group on a two-CD set, Artful Dodger – The Complete Columbia Recordings. If the band had only recorded one song, they’d still be remembered for “Wayside.” This jangly masterpiece with a harmony-laden chorus led off their debut album, which was helmed by Jack Douglas. He’d already had success with Aerosmith, and would go on to produce Cheap Trick and John Lennon, and it’s his clever use of layered guitars and vocals that really elevates these sessions. Their entire debut album is very good, including the darker “It’s Over,” which was a showcase for vocalist Billy Paliselli – he’s a lot closer to Steve Marriott than Eric Carmen. “You Know It’s Alright” is powered by a nice guitar riff and hook in the chorus (which reminds me of more modern bands like Sloan). “Follow Me” was another excellent rocker, while “Silver and Gold” was a gorgeous ballad that should’ve been a hit, and was so intricate, that it almost sounds like ELO. But, keep in mind, this record came out in 1975, when the rock world was dominated by heavy groups like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath, or the shock rock of Kiss and Alice Cooper. Timing is everything – Cheap Trick and Billy Squier were still a few years off, while the Raspberries and Badfinger had both run their course. So, in a sense, Artful Dodger fell through the cracks. And, there’s one theory that Columbia Records was too busy grooming fellow labelmate Bruce Springsteen for stardom, to concentrate on Artful Dodger’s career. Any hopes of building on their work from the first album were thwarted when Douglas was unavailable to produce their followup, Honor Among Thieves. Instead, the band turned to Ed Leonetti, whose track record wasn’t as storied as his predecessor (he’d helmed albums by Rex Smith and Moxy). While Leonetti gave them a more stripped-down sound, he also took away the appeal of the multi-layered harmonies and guitars. Without the production magic, the tracks end up sounding more like demos. That isn’t to say that there aren’t good songs here – the churning “Keep Me Happy” was probably the closest the guys got to Cleveland’s native sons, the Raspberries. The mid-tempo, jangly “Remember” was another highlight. The psychedelic-tinged “Dandelion” featured guitarist Gary Cox on vocals. “Hey Boys” had a killer twin guitar solo, while the slide guitar on “Good Fun” recalled Badfinger. Despite their lack of success, Leonetti was brought back for Babes on Broadway. This time around, he smoothes out the rough edges. Yet, for some reason, Cox does a lot more singing. While he was a decent vocalist, Paliselli was key to the band’s signature sound. “Wave Bye-Bye” was a nice midtempo rocker, while “Mistake” is one of their best ballads. But, tracks like “Loretta” and “Alright” are okay, but would’ve never made the cut for the first album. And, a cover of the Eddie Cochran classic “C’mon Everybody” signaled that they had run out of ideas. The set comes with an 18-page booklet, featuring an in-depth essay on the band’s history, including quotes from band members, and some nice archival photos. Fans of Cheap Trick, the Raspberries or Big Star will find plenty to love here. And, since it’s unlikely you’ve heard these tracks before, it’s like finding a great lost power pop classic. –Tony Peters
    3 points
  17. As is exemplified by the many and heartfelt posts here, she was one of the most classy and respected talents of the era. Her song writing contributions were at least equal to Nicks' and Lindsay's, and probably better. RIP Ms. Christine
    3 points
  18. Happy Belated Birthday Kirk!
    3 points
  19. Mine: 1975 - 1979 1965 - 1969 1960 - 1964 1980 - 1984 1955 - 1959 1970 - 1974 1985 - 1989 1990 - 1994 1995 - 1999 When I made this list, I kinda surprised myself in that 1970-1974 ranks as low as it does. I think the 70's started out rough, trying to find a place to go without the Beatles. There was a ton of experimentation, but a lot of it was terrible. It was starting to come together by the end of 1972, and picked up steam through 1974. I had to rank the 50's higher, based on the Everly Brothers and Ricky Nelson and some of the great dance ballads (Since I Don't Have You is one of my favorite songs of all time) Presley has to obviously be given a lot of credit for putting rock n roll on the map, but he was never a great favorite of mine.
    3 points
  20. For me, there isn't a lot of great music from the '90s. I think in the '90s I was still mostly listening to music from the '60s-'70s.
    3 points
  21. Wishing great happiness and joy to the voice of reason in this crazy family... Long may you reign as Moderator with your excellent judgement and wit that's as dry as a James Bond martini. Cheers! 🥂🍾👑🎂🎁🎈
    3 points
  22. Man oh man, where do I begin? Let me first say to each and every one of you who came up to me at various times and places over the weekend to thank me! Thank YOU!!! It was a very humbling experience and I was really moved by the outpouring of love, affection and appreciation for me, Kathy and EricCarmen.com! To Eric, Wally, Dave and Jim: I never thought I would ever be able to say that I saw Raspberries perform live. But thanks to your devotion to the fans that wouldn't take no for an answer, I can proudly answer the question, "Have you ever been to a Raspberries concert?" with a loud and clear, "You bet!" Dreams really do come true! To Susie, Kay, Kim and Barb: Thanks for sharing your guys. I know how hard they worked to put the show together and how much you sacrificed to let them be their best. As my wife Kathy is prone to say, "Behind every successful man is a woman who puts up with him." You gals deserve as much applause as they got Friday night. Brava! To the "Overdubs”…Paul, Billy and jennifer: What can I say? You were playing so many additional instruments and singing so many added harmonies that Raspberries couldn't help but sound exactly like their records. I also noticed your smiles onstage seemed just as big as ours in the audience. Fantastic! And finally, to the men behind the curtain…Dugie, Rusty and Ernie: It may have been over 30 years since you last plugged in Wally's Flying V or tightened the nut on one of Jim's cymbal stands, but your professionalism and combined experience let the band forget about the complex logistics of mounting their first show in three decades. Without you it just wouldn't have been the same. You guys rock! As for the show: "Overnight Sensation" (with the transistor radio!); "Ecstasy" (with Eric taking the guitar break and Jim pounding his drums so hard that I swear I saw smoke!); Wally flawlessly executing every stupendous guitar lick (from the solo on "Tonight" to the intricate chords of "If You Change Your Mind!"); Dave enjoying every moment in the spotlight as he sang "It's Cold Outside" (and later when the SRO crowd broke into a spontaneous chant of, "Dave! Dave! Dave!") Some say it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience, a thought that I would wholeheartedly agree with if not for the fact that Kathy and I already have airline tickets and hotel reservations for New Year's Eve 🙂 Bernie
    3 points
  23. I listened - again - to the opening intro bars of "Foolin' Myself" and think, "Who writes songs like this? Certainly not as of late." EC is indeed "Foolin' Himself" if he doesn't think it's a great song!!! 😉 While he might not "like" it, it's impossible to dismiss what an amazing song it is. And of course, his vocals are EC marvelous especially with that high point sail up to the high note.
    3 points
  24. Beautiful, beautiful song.
    3 points
  25. It seems absurd that Eric is not in the songwrites HOF...
    3 points
  26. “All For Love” is an underrated gem!
    3 points
  27. https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/12/great-songwriters-who-are-they-and-why-havent-there-been-any-for-the-last-20-years.html
    2 points
  28. Happy Birthday LC! And thank you for putting a bit of life in this site lately with all your "bumps" and ranking lists. A nice shot in the arm... for newbies and the rest of us. I still consider myself a baby here at 1 year. Hope you have a fabulous day!
    2 points
  29. It's an interesting article -- but just that one man's somewhat arrogant conclusion. Anyway, it was a good read. Thanks.
    2 points
  30. Glorious One-Offs?? Cmon Man! That's just ridiculous. BUT, I will say that his praise for Chris DeBurgh has pushed me to finally check him out in depth. I have quite a few things by him that are great and I've always had him on my list of artists to do a deep dive on.
    2 points
  31. I handmade several of these.
    2 points
  32. Happy birthday, LC…Better days ahead my friend…
    2 points
  33. More on Christine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_McVie
    2 points
  34. Heartbreaking news. I loved her...she was so talented and soulful. RIP Christine. 😪
    2 points
  35. A rare one to hear on the radio, for sure!
    2 points
  36. Happy Birthday Kirk - hope you had a great day!
    2 points
  37. Yeah, 1970 to 1974 had a lot of great stuff, ie America's 1st 4 albums, Eagles 1st 3, all Raspberries albums, Elton John's prime, hard rock bands when they were serious and pristine like Aerosmith's Toys in the Attic, Elvis's best stuff ( imho ), Band on the Run, Rod Stewart's best years...and a lot more.
    2 points
  38. Cool thread Craig, I'll give it a shot before looking at what the others' posted: 1. 1965 to 1969 ( tie with 1975 to 1979 ) 1. 1975 to 1979 ( tie with 1965 to 1969 ) 2. 1970 to 1974 3. 1960 to 1964 4. 1955 to 1959 5. 1980 to 1984 6. 1995 to 1999 7. 1990 to 1994 8. 1985 to 1989
    2 points
  39. It’s easier to go by decades…For me it’s 60’s…70’s…80’s…50’s…2010-20’…2000-2010 and last is the 90’s…
    2 points
  40. It's a bit tricky, but I'll go first: 1965-1969 1970-1974 1975-1979 1960-1964 1980-1984 1985-1989 1955-1959 1990-1994 1995-1999
    2 points
  41. Happy Birthday Kirk! 🎂 🎈🎁
    2 points
  42. Happy birthday to the glue that holds this place together (Bernie is the rock)…
    2 points
  43. I can only add my heartfelt thanks to Bernie and to all who ensured the entire reunion would be so well-documented for future generations to enjoy. Y'all helped those who couldn't be there feel like a part of it anyway.
    2 points
  44. Seriously. Why is Eric Carmen not in the Songwriters Hall of Fame?
    2 points
  45. For sure Raspberries deserved to be there, also "Status Quo"....both are massive omissions........they got REO right as REO barely made the radio in the 70s but with Cronin singing it's when they were at their best. The double live album from 1977 is as good an album as is out there...great fusion of melody with kick butt organic rock & roll straight from the midwest's rich rock & roll soil. Also UFO and Badfinger were good choices.
    2 points
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