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These songs by the Raspberries sound like the Beatles
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zippl...@gmail.com 
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11/10/14
 
With the first song, the chord changes sound like Lennon, and the guitar licks 
sound like Harrison in places. Eric Carmen is doing a McCartney vocal at end. 

youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4p6uGYcvg 

This second song actually sounds more like the Beatles than the one above. 
The first part of the song sounds like McCartney, and it rotates back and 
forth between him  and Harrison. Guitar licks throughout the song 
sound like Harrison. Towards the end of the song, those very low notes 
on the guitar sound like Harrison, With Eric screaming again like McCartney. 

youtube.com/watch?v=657MjGAhBnQ 
 
 
 
 
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BlackMonk 
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11/10/14
 
On 11/10/2014 10:26 AM, zippl...@gmail.com wrote: 
> With the first song, the chord changes sound like Lennon, and the guitar licks 
> sound like Harrison in places. Eric Carmen is doing a McCartney vocal at end. 
> 
> youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4p6uGYcvg 
 
At the beginning and the middle, too. 

It's a nice song, but it has the same same flaw that a lot of 70s and 
80s songs do. It takes something that would have made a great 2 and 1/2 
to 3 minute song and stretches it out into four minutes. 
 
 
 
 
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jtees4 
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11/10/14
 
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Both very Beatles like (though not quite as good). The end of the 
intro to the second one sounds identical to Wings "Baby I'm Amazed". 
Right at 10 seconds. A Paul sound alike, but the key is a bit too high 
for him. 




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zippl...@gmail.com 
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11/10/14
 
On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:23:49 PM UTC-6, BlackMonk wrote: 
> On 11/10/2014 10:26 AM, zippl...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > With the first song, the chord changes sound like Lennon, and the guitar licks 
> > sound like Harrison in places. Eric Carmen is doing a McCartney vocal at end. 
> > 
> > youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4p6uGYcvg 
> 
> At the beginning and the middle, too. 
 
You're right. 

> It's a nice song, but it has the same same flaw that a lot of 70s and 
> 80s songs do. It takes something that would have made a great 2 and 1/2 
> to 3 minute song and stretches it out into four minutes. 
 
I think it works though. 
 
 
 
 
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BlackMonk 
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11/10/14
 
On 11/10/2014 8:07 PM, poisoned rose wrote: 

> I can't dispute BlackMonk's complaint that these two songs are a bit 
> overlong, though. However, my biggest criticism of the Raspberries (and 
> so-called "power pop" in general) is the missing sense of individual 
> personality found in better bands like the Beatles and Kinks. There's an 
> apparent objective to turn the songs more universal and "generic," where 
> the lyrics are discardable and the music is stripped of stylistic 
> quirks. When you hear "Let It Be," you hear Paul singing from the heart. 
> When you hear "If You Change Your Mind," you just hear a songwriter's 
> calculated craftsmanship. 

It could be that none of the bands had more than a couple of great songs 
in them. A lot of 70s power pop bands had a song or two that I love, but 
every time I heard more, I was disappointed. 

For instance, I think youtube.com/watch?v=1XbqfSBMKUo is a 
great song, but the only other song by them that made any impression on 
me is "Yachting Type." It seemed like the philosophy behind the albums 
was "If you liked the hit, here it is, with some similar songs that you 
won't mind hearing." 

Would you consider the Television Personalities as power pop? They would 
definitely be an exception to both of our criticisms. 

Here's a later band that I thought was strong enough to sustain an 
album. youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2Cdw8THX8 
Oddly, while Big Star was obviously an influence, I'd rather listen to 
them than either of the first two Big Star albums. 
 
 
 
 
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hislop 
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11/10/14
 
On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM, poisoned rose wrote: 
> zippl...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
>> With the first song, the chord changes sound like Lennon, and the guitar licks 
>> sound like Harrison in places. Eric Carmen is doing a McCartney vocal at end. 
>> 
>> youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4p6uGYcvg 
>> 
>> This second song actually sounds more like the Beatles than the one above. 
>> The first part of the song sounds like McCartney, and it rotates back and 
>> forth between him  and Harrison. Guitar licks throughout the song 
>> sound like Harrison. Towards the end of the song, those very low notes 
>> on the guitar sound like Harrison, With Eric screaming again like McCartney. 
>> 
>> youtube.com/watch?v=657MjGAhBnQ 
> 
> I love the Raspberries (and incidentally, I merely "like" Badfinger). I 
> didn't know more than a couple of Raspberries songs until I was sent 
> their Collectors Series compilation in 1991. That disc was a real 
> eye-opener for me. 
> 
> I can't dispute BlackMonk's complaint that these two songs are a bit 
> overlong, though. However, my biggest criticism of the Raspberries (and 
> so-called "power pop" in general) 
 
I haven't heard a lot of The Raspberries, but that is a real 70s term, 
'power pop' 

  is the missing sense of individual 
> personality found in better bands like the Beatles and Kinks. There's an 
> apparent objective to turn the songs more universal and "generic," where 
> the lyrics are discardable and the music is stripped of stylistic 
> quirks. When you hear "Let It Be," you hear Paul singing from the heart. 
> When you hear "If You Change Your Mind," you just hear a songwriter's 
> calculated craftsmanship. 
 
that sounds somewhat right.  It's the 'becoming' of a sound that counts. 
 

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Wow,  "When you hear "If You Change Your Mind," you just hear a songwriter's 
> calculated craftsmanship. "  

 Eric's vocal is completely from the heart and magnificent. Gets me every time, 10.000 listens later. Clearly this guy has never tried to play IYCYM on the guitar or piano because the chords early follow a common progression, but have some incredible changes later on. Nothing about this song is calculated. A masterpiece that should have been a massive AM single.

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