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rosi   

I may be mistaken but I think this was from around 1974 or 75.I used to be at the Agora a lot around from about 1971 to around the mid 70's and remember hearing the Secret. By 1981 I was 27.(Too old for the Agora) Someone correct me if I'm wrong.I knew this Agora stuff would surface eventually. I thought I had read somewhere that the club had cameras running for a lot of the bands that played there. Hope to see that materialize on You Tube!

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MAM   

That was cool! Hey Wally's stealing my licks! No wait, that's right, I stole his .... oops! :lol:

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I am certain that it was 81 because I was hauling the gear and Frank Mussalra was the drummer. Dave and I shared a house in South Euclid from 80 thru 83 until I got married. Frank left the band in 83 and was replaced by Mark Chambers (not sure of the spelling of Frank's or Mark's last name. They did do some demo's at my cousins studio but I do not know what ever happened to the tapes. 83 was the year I married my wife, Kim and the Secret played a set at the wedding (Wally, Dave, and Eric Robertson in Tuxedos) with Mark on drums. Somewhere I have video of the weeding with them playing but at this moment it is lost thanks to my youngest daughter.

Just a note, the Secret still performs around Cleveland with Eric Robertson still singing lead and they still rock. Went to see them a couple of months ago and our own Berries drum tech/monitor tech Dave Booth is mixing FOH for them.

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Jerry   

As hard as it might be for members of this forum to believe, even though The Secret was after The Raspberries, to most people in Mentor it was considered "Eric's Robinson's band", not "half of The Raspberries", or "Dave and Wally got some guy to be in the band."

Alas, in the category of "Things don't always work out.", or "Life is full of disappointments.", or "Some things are just not meant to be...", Eric just didn't have the success most of us envisioned for him.

As Roadie #3 says, there is still a version of The Secret out there-

http://www.thesecretband.net/

If you visit the website, click on the "History" tab to see some great pictures of the band "back in the day." And speaking of "History" the website says the band started up in August of 1980.

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Jenny309   

holy smokes, those videos are really great. The Secret happened in the early 80's for sure, so the person posting is accurate. Eric Carmen KNOWS Eric Robertson very well or so i have heard. I have always heard there was a little competition between them. I am from Cleveland, still live here and I saw the Secret many times. Eric Robertson was considered the greatest male singer to come from Cleveland Ohio. I am not sure if he still lives in Cleveland or not. unfortunately Eric Robertson nor The Secret got a record deal/contract like Raspberries, so the world is clueless as to who Eric Robertson is. I think he is tremendous. This is so cool to watch. i have to thank the person posting this material because I recall watchng these guys all the time, using my older sisters I.D. to get into clubs. i was such a naughty girl, lol. hey, the person posting has other stuff. i think this was the Secret after Dave & Wally were nolonger in the band, but the new Secret band is very good too:

mannn this is so cool. i cant believe i am watching this stuff or that somome actually recorded it. xoxo to the cameraman JEN

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hollies65 said:

I saw the Secret at least 20-30 times...they were the finest "bar band" I've ever seen...and I've seen plenty.

I saw The Secret many times in the 80's!! :) That brings back such memories!! Thanks (to the OP!)for posting!! ;)

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MJ   

Oh I had nothing to do with posting them online - I'm just glad someone else did and I happened to find them :) We need more vintage clips of everyone in the band when they were with others - it's pretty cool!

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JohnO   

Very cool - an excellent Moby Grape cover (Truck Drivin' Man)!!!......I'll relay this info to their bassist Bob Mosley (who wrote it and sang the original on "Moby Grape 69"). There are too, too few covers of tunes by this criminally underrated band out there!

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JohnO   

I just posted the info about The Secret's cover of this Moby Grape tune on the MG Yahoo board. Now, hopefully, some of those guys (681 members as of this morning) will check out the 'Berries!

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Jerry   

As I recall Moby Grape was a victim of being labeled "The Next Beatles". They were also being compared to Buffalo Springfield. IMO, a good but not great band. Very good musicians, but the vocals were average. "Omaha" is a great song.

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Jerry   
Jenny309 said:

I am not sure if he still lives in Cleveland or not.

If you visit The Secret website and click on the "Show Dates" link, you will see they have played pretty much exclusively in Mentor. Go check them out!

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JohnO   

"As I recall Moby Grape was a victim of being labeled "The Next Beatles". They were also being compared to Buffalo Springfield. IMO, a good but not great band. Very good musicians, but the vocals were average. "Omaha" is a great song."

Hmmm....3 excellent lead singers and decent 4th & 5th vocalists, one of the very best guitarists on the planet, and a debut album that, IMO, kills anything Buffalo Springfield ever put out (and BTW, the Springfield's only top 10 hit, "For What It's Worth" was a combination of two Grape songs that Stills "borrowed", and has admitted doing so....aside from that, the only comparison worth noting is that both bands had 3 guitarists...). They were victims of horrendous management, drug use, and insanity - in that order.

Suggest you give a listen to "8:05" or "Fall On You" or "Indifference", and then come back and tell me those are "average" vocals. (No offense, but this is kinda like telling me that the Raspberries' vocals are maybe slightly above average...) Oh well...different strokes for different folks!

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