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mellie   

This may be a question only Eric can answer, but if someone else knows, feel free to pipe up. Was the band "Cyrus Erie" ever known as "Cyrus Erie West", and if it was, what were the differences between the two bands?

In the early '70's I bought some sets of photos from a Cleveland area pen-pal who was also a Raspberries fan. The photos are dated in June and July 1968, and June and July 1969. Some are labeled "Cyrus Erie" and the venue name, and others show "Cyrus Erie West" and the venue name. In all of the books and articles that I have read, I only find references to "Cyrus Erie". I have wondered if the photos labeled "Cyrus Erie West" were incorrectly labeled. Thanks.

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Brian   

OK...There was a time when all was not going well with the band and they decided to play Country & Western music...you know "Rawhide"..."Theme from High Noon", and was beginning to become very popular with this theme, when to their dismay,they couldn't aquire the Ten Gallon Hats that they needed for their "identity"......so they went back to rock n roll!

Now seriously,folks,...pah-rump!...Cyrus Erie West was the name of the fomerly known club of North Ridgeville Hullabaloo...It was aquired by Don Ladonyi, their manager at the time and renamed in the bands namesake.

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To expand on Brian's post ... Cyrus Erie West existed at the same time as the band. Originally, there were plans for a Cyrus Erie East (potentially the Chesterland Hullabaloo) but the eastside club never materialized. At some point, everyone began referring to the club as just Cyrus Erie, even after the band was dissolved.

Assuming Mellie's pictures are of Cyrus Erie and the venues are correct, the Cyrus Erie West pictures are probably incorrectly labeled.

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And I do remember driving out to Cyrus Erie West when I worked with Wally and Mike McBride (Target). From the East side of Cleveland it seemed like the longest drive.

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Even said:

Did Cyrus Erie and Quick record anything much, and will it ever be released, you know like The Choir?

Cyrus Erie and The Quick both recorded singles for Epic.

Don Krider :)

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Even said:

Did Cyrus Erie and Quick record anything much, and will it ever be released, you know like The Choir?

Cyrus Erie recorded enough material for an LP—albeit a short one. Whether it ever gets released is a good question. IMHO, the songs (and the recordings) are SPECTACULAR!

Bernie

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mellie said:

In the early '70's I bought some sets of photos from a Cleveland area pen-pal who was also a Raspberries fan. The photos are dated in June and July 1968, and June and July 1969. Some are labeled "Cyrus Erie" and the venue name, and others show "Cyrus Erie West" and the venue name. In all of the books and articles that I have read, I only find references to "Cyrus Erie". I have wondered if the photos labeled "Cyrus Erie West" were incorrectly labeled. Thanks.

What the others have posted is correct. Cyrus Erie West was what used to be the North Ridgeville Hullabaloo. Having grown up in nearby Olmsted Falls, that was one of my hang outs, before and after it was renamed in honor of the band. Another hangout was the Chesterland Hullabaloo, that never became Cyrus Erie East, and I was there the night Hendrix was reported dead. I was helping a friend roadie for the band after an announcement was made about Hendrix's death, the bass player broke out in an impromptu rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. It was one of those I 'remember when' moments, I guess. Didn't hurt that someone with a little too many recreational substances happened to walk through the plate glass window in the entrance.

First heard Cyrus Erie at the Boston Mills Ski Resort and was hooked. Their rendition of the Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin" was spot on. I followed the group from that point on. There was even some rumors that they were going to be the house band at Cyrus Erie West but that never materialized. I remember finding the Cyrus Erie single and the Quick single on the jukebox at E.T.I. in Cleveland where I was going to school. It was then that the Rasberries appeared on the scene but I got drafted and lost contact with the group. Ended up in Canton in the music scene down here and ran into some of the remnants of the group that was often confused with The Choir, The Chylds, notably Joe Vitale. We still run into each other once in a while. Although they never had the notoriety that the Choir did, Joe probably ended up with the better creds having worked with so many artists it makes your head spin. I was on his MySpace site last night and who did I find in his list of friends, but Eric Carmen. Cule!

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Art   

Just to confirm the previous posts, Cyrus Erie West was indeed a club. Along with the aforementioned Chesterland Hullabaloo, those were 2 great places to be! Utopia on Euclid wasn't so bad either. Ah....those were great days.

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Joe is a fantastic drummer and a great all-around musician. I used to go to JB's in Kent just to watch him play.He plays flute and keyboards and sings, as well. Nice guy, awesome musician. ec

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Eric Carmen said:

Joe is a fantastic drummer and a great all-around musician. I used to go to JB's in Kent just to watch him play.He plays flute and keyboards and sings, as well. Nice guy, awesome musician. ec

the question remains... will the material see the light of day? (no sublime pun intended)....what i've heard of The Quick & Cyrus Erie truly constitutes a major piece of obscure rock history... and is way better than tons of stuff on the Nuggets box sets...

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A couple of years ago, Ken Sharp and I along with Grammy-winning engineer Dennis "The Fly" Ferrante, had the original Cyrus Erie studio master tapes baked, transferred and restored. IMHO, there is enough spectacular material material to release. The only question I suppose is, how many can possibly sell and does that number justify the expense involved in releasing it? Eric doesn't own the recordings, so it's not just up to him or Wally or Mike and Bob McBride. They're owned by the band's former manager who I believe would be interested in releasing the recordings, but only if there is some potential profit in it. FYI, the tapes were preserved at OUR expense for posterity, so there has been $0 investment on the manager's part, so far. I think this material should see the light of day, and wish there was a label out there willing to take it on. Perhaps there is. Pat, anyone owe you any favors?

:)

Bernie

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MJ   

Bernie I am sure at least everyone on this board would be interested, then there may be others who are not registered - how many would they have to sell to make the manager happy?

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drdx   
marvin said:

Did Joe Vitale also play with Jay ("Thunder Island") Ferguson?

Joe V. played with Jay Ferguson many times and Jay did a lot of guest spots on Walsh's albums with Joe V. Joe has a complete discography on his site listed above. He has a new solo album out and has been touring with CSN during the past year. Still has time for tons of side projects. The guy is a veritable energizer bunny. Did I mention our sons were in cub scouts together? Nothing funnier than two rockers sitting in the back of a cub scout meeting with all the den moms!

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Buckeye,

Among the recordings is indeed the pre-Eric material, so we're talking about a pretty interesting project if anyone sees potential in perhaps one of the GREATEST unheard "garage bands" of all time!

Bernie

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The three songs were recorded in November 1967 at Cleveland Recording. I do have a copy of them. They are originals. I don't know if it's appropriate going into more details here, hijacking this board for arcana? :cool:

- George

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WC1215   
On 9/5/2007 at 6:22 AM, Raspbernie said:

A couple of years ago, Ken Sharp and I along with Grammy-winning engineer Dennis "The Fly" Ferrante, had the original Cyrus Erie studio master tapes baked, transferred and restored. IMHO, there is enough spectacular material material to release. The only question I suppose is, how many can possibly sell and does that number justify the expense involved in releasing it? Eric doesn't own the recordings, so it's not just up to him or Wally or Mike and Bob McBride. They're owned by the band's former manager who I believe would be interested in releasing the recordings, but only if there is some potential profit in it. FYI, the tapes were preserved at OUR expense for posterity, so there has been $0 investment on the manager's part, so far. I think this material should see the light of day, and wish there was a label out there willing to take it on. Perhaps there is. Pat, anyone owe you any favors?

Bernie,

Saw this old thread and I remembered there were supposed to be 2 upcoming releases.

Any updates on "The Early Years" release? Would these tapes be used?

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